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    d-bol--here we go!!

    ok folks,i'm gonna start my 1st cycle soon. and i'm going to admit worried.i know the smart thing would be to take the dart but it's to late..so i'm here with this problem i have researched as much as i could .i know too late but anyway.now i need anti-es,pct,for before and after, during . the ? is will milk thistle help?when to take it?.how whats the odds of side effects with a lite dosage, i'm 42 been working out for awhile feel that i've reached my limit in growth,-napo any real help would be great

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    whats your cycle, also if your planning on doing dbol only then u shouldn't be doing aas

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    yea bro and what...your question is will milk thistle help you with anti e's???...milk thistle is for your liver to detox it. maybe i just read you rpost wrong. and yea im with blindside. dbol only.....big mistake. mix it up with some test man

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    ok the reason i'm asking is because of what i read .i'm still learning here.so bare with me please. i was asking about the milk thistle because i know it's a detox for the liver and could it combat a problem that could arise? my cycle would be 20mgs for 5wks thanks really this is helpful

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    avoiding the dart lol the only thing ur avoiding by not taking testosterone in ur cycle is keeping your gains

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    ehh well milk thistle will help protect your liver but first of all 20mgs a day isn't really gonna do much and even if you should gain something theres no way your gonna keep it. -also i'd only run dbol for 4 wks and even then its gonna b a kick start to a cycle with test in it.

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    u r wasting your time and money with a dbol only cycle.... u could put that money to better use by using it for food... and u wld keep more of the weight u put on...

    dbol only = waste of time/cash.... research more bro...

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    y ru afraid of needles?, they are your friend

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    and if i take d-bol by its self will i make gains,i'm sure it will be water mostly. like i said i'm trying to learn.

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    all the gains u make by just takin dbol will be lost just as fast as its gained if u dont add test to your cycle. thats one of the reasons EVERYONE is tryin to tell you that dbol only is a waste of money

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    should u decide to take dbol only then yes your gains will be mostly water, you will get stronger and gain the water weight but when u come off of it you'll lose everything. Dbol is normally used in something like a deca test e stack to kick start the gains.

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    not afraid of needle--lol just the person giving it --myself!! lol

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    thanx ! all of this was very helpful in my decision!!

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    well if ur that affraid of it then get someone else to give u the shot

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    yeah u get used to it, if worst came to worst just have a friend do it the first few times. A good first cycle would be this
    Test e- wk 1-11 500mg
    Deca - wk 1-10 400mg
    Dbol - wk 1-4 35mg ED
    followed by PCT with clomid

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    if u are hell bent on using gear then do alot of research and do it right.... if it's your first cycle than 250mg of test e shot every 3.5 days wld be your best bet... if u allready have the dbol and want to use it than do 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks as a kickstart... split the dose into at least 3 like 10 mg 3 times a day... and take milk thistle to keep your liver from hating u...

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    how about sos250-and winne-2ccsof each 2aweek

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    all i can say is knowldge rocks --and it seems like i need more of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdon
    all i can say is knowldge rocks --and it seems like i need more of it
    lol y don't u research some more bro

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