my first cycle

**cowboy60** · 07-27-2005, 07:09 AM

Hey everyone, i'm new to this forum and wanted to say hey and get some advice. I'm 21 and been lifting on and off pretty hard for about 7 years. I'm fairly experienced in lifting and nutrition but i've never done a cycle before and was wanting advice.

I'm 5'10, 230, with probably 15-18% bodyfat, i'm hoping to mainly lose some weight while also hopefully gaining some lean mass. I want to put together a cycle to match those goals. So far i've been considering Deca with maybe Anavar or something like that.

I'm totally inexperienced with this stuff so i'd appreciate any advice, Thanks.

**rodge** · 07-27-2005, 07:12 AM

if its your first cycle then stick to test-e at 500mg ew for 12 weeks to see how you react to it.

research before you start a cycle cause a deca cycle without test is a big no no.

-rodge

**SABAGOY** · 07-27-2005, 07:21 AM

I would try and get down to about 12% before starting a cycle. For your first cycle i think it would be a waste to use it to cut down from 18%bf when you can do that very easily without it. Try and get on a good fat loss diet and while your leaning up research, research, research so you will know what would be best for you. Best of luck

**rodge** · 07-27-2005, 07:24 AM

15-18% is'nt that bad to start a cycle with,just make sure you have a clean diet with plenty of protein.

-rodge

***G-1000*** · 07-27-2005, 07:26 AM

like sabagoy said i you should get bf down before you start an cycle. then you should look inot a test and var cycle.

1-12 test-c 500mg week
4-14 var 60mg day

**cowboy60** · 07-27-2005, 08:40 AM

Thanks for the advice on dropping some weight before i begin, i was planning on starting in 4-6 weeks once i lose a little.

One question though is, how are the side effects with Test? I had terrible acne when i was like 15-16 and am a little cautious about wanting to deal with anything like that. I'm also trying to avoid taking something that will make me retent too much water.

I guess i'm just not looking for something too drastic right now, what do you guys think about equipoise in a stack?

**cowboy60** · 07-27-2005, 08:49 AM

I believe i do have a real solid base, i'm solid and have been at it since about 8th grade...but, does anyone think 21 is too young to start for whatever reason?

**longhorn814** · 07-27-2005, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by cowboy60

Thanks for the advice on dropping some weight before i begin, i was planning on starting in 4-6 weeks once i lose a little.

One question though is, how are the side effects with Test? I had terrible acne when i was like 15-16 and am a little cautious about wanting to deal with anything like that. I'm also trying to avoid taking something that will make me retent too much water.

I guess i'm just not looking for something too drastic right now, what do you guys think about equipoise in a stack?

any steroid can potentially cause acne, not just test. Just make sure you shower at least twice a day. I got lots of acne when I was a teenager too, but dont get any from gear. I get little to no sides on test. Run an anti e, such as nolva or arimidex , during cycle to keep bloat down. That works great for me. Test is the best and should always be the base of any cycle. I would work on dropping a little more bodyfat before beginning and do lots of research before putting anything into your body