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    So how does this sound to get me going

    10 week cycle of the following - Winny and Deca - I already have all this so...

    Weeks 1- 7 Deca 400 and Winny 50 EOD
    Weeks 8-10 Deca 400 and Winny 50 EOD as well as Clomid 100 EOD

    anything else I should need? I'm doing clen prior to lose some weight - then ill wait a few weeks before starting the above.

    lastly - I have a Stan QV 50 bottle - 20ml - this will give me 20 1cc shots with each one equivalent to 50mg correct? Im far from a scientist and my math is horrendous so forgive the stupidity. I also have 100 5mg tabs to finish off the winny thus giving me the necessary 10 weeks. Don't ask why i have both - its just the way i ordered it.

    thanks to all!

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    To bad you didn't ask before you bought, I think that is a bad cycle for anyone. At your age a test only is what you need. Never run deca without test and always start with 1 compound.

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    so what you are saying is that I should get some test then - what would you recommend? Im always listening to advice

    thanks

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    will this work

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    100 mg/ml

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    you need to run test at 500mg/week for at least 10 wks...

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    Do your research dog - you'll see overwhelming info telling you NEVER to run deca without test. I'd go with Johnnys advice and run test only for the first go. Save the other goodies for later.

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    what test do you mostly recommend - Test prop, Test E.....

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    good call on doing the research CapnZ - i hear you there - but I see so many diff cycles/stacks ect...so i figured id ask about what to do with what I had. im mainly looking to shred with the obvious intention of building muscle. bulk is not necessary yet for me - that will come later. im 34 with 21% bf and i need to lose weight before I do anything im thinking so....the last thing i want to do is waste a cycle. i have a trainer who is going to help me also (doesnt know ill be using AAS however)

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    IMO I would go with test e that way you only have to inject twice a week. 500mg weekly 250mg twice a week and you'll grow. And I would never use dbol and winny together. Always use test when stacking. Don't forget anti-e's and have nolva on hand or take 10mg daily.

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    then that is what it shall be...ill get myself some - Testosterone Enanthate (250mg/ml) 10 ml bottles - 4 of them should do the job correct

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    For a 10 week cycle at 500mg/wk, two bottles should be enough, but it never hurts to have extra gear

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    Done

    thanks again

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    also when you take winny please take everyday people mess up by not doing this for the simple fact that its in and out so quickly and the object is to look hard right.

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    Has anyone ever taken Winny by itself and gotten good results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuckDog
    im mainly looking to shred with the obvious intention of building muscle. bulk is not necessary yet for me - that will come later. im 34 with 21% bf and i need to lose weight before I do anything im thinking so....
    yes you should definitely drop some bf before taking steroids . Remember diet and cardio and the keys to losing weight, not drugs. Certain compounds can aid in weight loss if your diet and cardio are in check.

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    Im with you Longhorn - I need to drop about 40lbs before I start. Def not looking for the easy way out here as I know that I have a full ass-busting road in front of me.

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