How long do you need to be on a cycle before recovery gets 'difficult'?

I was just wondering what people think is the most amount of time you can spend on a cycle before it gets to the point that getting yourslef back to pre cycle homeostasis, or basically gettin your natural test levels back up? The reason being that im plannin a cycle that was originally gonna be 13 weeks with testE,Dbol and EQ. But when i told my mate he was shocked and asked if i 'wanted to recover and keep my gains', because 13 weeks would be a nightmare to recover from. Personally i thought things only started gettin tricky after 17 or 18 weeks. So now iv decided to do 10 weeks and drop the EQ because i read it has to be used for at least around 12 weeks to get the full benefits from it.

My question is, would recovering from a 13 week cycle really be so much more difficult than a 10 week cycle? Thanks

bro if ur gonna run EQ u need to run it 12 weeks, it isnt any different recovering from a 10 wk compared to a 13

Yeah i know, runnin the EQ for 12 weeks was the original plan in the 13 week cycle, but i dropped it from my 10 week cycle because of that same reason you said. So you reckon there wouldnt be much difference in recovering from 13 weeks rather 10 weeks? My mate said id end up with less muscle gains (after pct was over and done) if i did the 13 weeker, because Id lose most of gains while trying to recover. Think hes wrong?

OK I'm by no means an expert, but 12 weeks is pretty much the standard for a cycle especially with a long ester test like test E. My research indicates you will see better gains in the 12 week area. Also recovery ability will depend on the dosage you run during the cycle. Higher doses = more attn to pct. Just my 2 cents worth..

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Originally Posted by transform

Yeah i know, runnin the EQ for 12 weeks was the original plan in the 13 week cycle, but i dropped it from my 10 week cycle because of that same reason you said. So you reckon there wouldnt be much difference in recovering from 13 weeks rather 10 weeks? My mate said id end up with less muscle gains (after pct was over and done) if i did the 13 weeker, because Id lose most of gains while trying to recover. Think hes wrong?

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Your friends perspective is interesting but in the end we all recover at different speeds. Age/health/genetics play a huge role in it all. 10-13 weeks is not enough to make a difference in my eyes. If we were comparing a 10 week to a 20 week then yes, it may be harder to recover.

Thanks CapnZ. Im gonna be usin farily mild doses like 500-600mg testE a week, 400 mg EQ a week and 35mg dbol a day (for 5 weeks). I thought that recovery was more dependant on doses aswel, unless you were on a cycle for a long time, but my mate is adament that ill have the nat test levels of a 12 year old if i go over 10 weeks and ill lose it all because itll take so long to recover?!?!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Benches505

Your friends perspective is interesting but in the end we all recover at different speeds. Age/health/genetics play a huge role in it all. 10-13 weeks is not enough to make a difference in my eyes. If we were comparing a 10 week to a 20 week then yes, it may be harder to recover.

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My thoughts exactly...
~DV~

Those dosages are not high, and your gonna get shut down anyhow weather its a 10 week or a 12-13 week recover will be the same for either. were only talkin about 2 weeks here. it would be another story like benches said if you were to run a 20 weeks cycle compared to a 10, then i could see the differance in recovery. depending on the individual test kicks in @ around 4-6 weeks,thats why you should run it at least 12 and especially for the EQ. EQ builds slow LBM/quality muscle.
~DV~

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Originally Posted by dirtyvegas

Those dosages are not high, and your gonna get shut down anyhow weather its a 10 week or a 12-13 week recover will be the same for either. were only talkin about 2 weeks here. it would be another story like benches said if you were to run a 20 weeks cycle compared to a 10, then i could see the differance in recovery. depending on the individual test kicks in @ around 4-6 weeks,thats why you should run it at least 12 and especially for the EQ. EQ builds slow LBM/quality muscle.
~DV~

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My thoughts exactly! Thanks DV

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Originally Posted by Benches505

Your friends perspective is interesting but in the end we all recover at different speeds. Age/health/genetics play a huge role in it all. 10-13 weeks is not enough to make a difference in my eyes. If we were comparing a 10 week to a 20 week then yes, it may be harder to recover.

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Definitely good advice here - also I would like to throw out that keeping gains is impacted by your precycle fitness level. If you've got a good solid foundation, keeping what you work hard for during the cycle will be a bit easier.

I was on eq and test250 for 6 months do to an experiment! I really wanted to see what would happen! I noticed a little gyno nothing bad! I used all the proper pct coming off so everything went good! I enjoyed the cycles gains and pros but after 6 months of injecting, it really got old!

Alot of people say 12 weeks on the EQ, but I think if your dosage is a little higher, say 600 or 800mg/wk a 10 week run will yield some awesome results. A 10 or 12 weeker isnt that bad as far as recovery goes, it varies from person to person, also depends on your method of PCT. I did a 20 week cycle last time and I'll admit it was hell when I came off. I crashed SOOOOOO ****ing hard dude, I'll never run more than 10 -12 weeks again. It's just not worth it, the gains come to a hault after that anyways, kind of gets to the point where your just injecting yourself for nothing I think.

12 weeks is a great number to stick with. with hcg, chlomid and nolva for pct, recovery will be no problem bro.

what if you are on for half a year...how long should you run pct...

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Originally Posted by lfcdeke

what if you are on for half a year...how long should you run pct...

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oh yikes, that is a whole different story. HCG should fill the boys back up. Idon't know aside from that. I would never stay on for 6 months straight.

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Originally Posted by Heracles74

12 weeks is a great number to stick with. with hcg, chlomid and nolva for pct, recovery will be no problem bro.

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Thanks Heracles

1/2 year is a different story.
PCT should take an other form, also during a cycle.
Use HCG every 2 months to keep the boys up and running (3 eod x 300ui)
use nolva during the whole cycle
use HCG at the end of the cycle 3 eod x 300ui
if Nolva is used, Clomid won't do any good. (same product/effect) but keep using it, 4 weeks after last injection

Go see a docter for a full blood check and a full check-up!

that about raps it up.

It's better to do 2 x 12 weeks then 1 x 24 weeks.
you are in a higher risk (especialy if it is a 4 or higher cycle) to stop producing test totaly, for ever.

I've been reading stories about pro's, who need to have regular injections, as their body does not produce any any more. imagine........ for the rest of your life!

just my 2cents

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