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    can u gain on 250mg of test a week ?

    is it possible to gain on 1 testaviron a week? thats 250mg im very gyno prone .

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    It's possible, but your diet better be on the money and your gains will be minimal, but you'll keep them all with the right pct and diet

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    do u guys think a gyno prone person would be ok with 500mg a week 20mg of nolva ed and 1.25mg ed of letro,i have been using letro and nolva for 3 weeks now and thinking of starting gear on monday.

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    if gyno is a problem for you, i'd stay away from aromatizing steroids . stick with the short acting esters. i'm prone to gyno and ive never had problems with test prop or sustanon . if i take test enanthate i turn into a water balloon with titties.

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    just bourght 16 testaviron so was gonna use that,some people saying prop can give bad gyno not sure what to do .

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa pain
    do u guys think a gyno prone person would be ok with 500mg a week 20mg of nolva ed and 1.25mg ed of letro,i have been using letro and nolva for 3 weeks now and thinking of starting gear on monday.
    I would drop the letro dose to 1.25mgs EOD.

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    would 50mg eod of prop be better? should the letro stop the gyno?

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    bro your body makes just about 70mg a week of natty test. so if you do 250mg a week how much do you think your going to grow.

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    Letro will definetely prevent gyno, but if you run it at too high of a dose it will kill your gains. Lower your dose of letro, keep your dose of nolva the same, and do 1cc long ester shots every 3 days IMO.

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    why 1.25 eod ? what harm is ed if sex drives ok.

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    well actually guys i agree its too low, but i gained 20lbs, that was what i kept after pct, on a cycle of sust 250.. 1 amp a week, and like 200mg deca /wk, my diet was ****in perfect though, my training spot on, and my rest the best its been. but try for it bro see if you can make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomore1324
    well actually guys i agree its too low, but i gained 20lbs, that was what i kept after pct, on a cycle of sust 250.. 1 amp a week, and like 200mg deca/wk, my diet was ****in perfect though, my training spot on, and my rest the best its been. but try for it bro see if you can make it work.
    Nice........adding an amp of deca to that makes a big difference, though!

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    so 1.25ed may hinder gains i see,just worried about gyno anyone else think 125mg ed is to much ?

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    BTW- How long of a cycle was it?

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    thinking of adding winny for last 5 weeks,gonna be eating clean and wont to loose a bit of fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa pain
    so 1.25ed may hinder gains i see,just worried about gyno anyone else think 125mg ed is to much ?
    I wouldn't worry too much since you have nolva and letro on hand. If any signs appear then just up your doses...but generally people try to get away with as little as possible- as far as anti-e's go!

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    last course was sus 125mg eod with winny and nolva 20mg ed arimidex .5 ed gyno grew a bit so added letro 125mg ed and increased nolva this did hinder gains alot,think this time buy loading on letro before course and nolva i will be ok hope so.
    I was also thinking of using 50mg ed of clomid right through ?

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    will adding clomid stop me shutting down as much? and also act as an anti e?

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    If your prone to gyno,it doesnt matter if you are using 250mg/week or 2.5g/week..you will get it if you dont take the proper precations..

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    i know ,its the precautions i wont to know about.

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    run nolva @ 20mg/ed for 2 weeks before stating your cycle to build up the blood levels(yes,you need to do this with nolva too)and then run it at 10mg/ed throughout cycle.up the dose if nesacerry.

    I opted for surgury,once you get it(gyno) you got it forever,it may shrink after cycle,but it wii be back,trust me.

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    had surgury but a few little lumps have grown back cost 4000 pound and grown back,not cool .

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    there is some shitty surgians about in england and the whole gland is not allways removed so it grows back.

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    young adult males produce roughly 70mg of testosterone , and plenty of poeple make gains naturally.

    100-200mg of foreign test will surely help you make more gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoid
    young adult males produce roughly 70mg of testosterone , and plenty of poeple make gains naturally.

    100-200mg of foreign test will surely help you make more gains.

    bingo

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    what about 500mg a week to start with then 250 per week later in the course ?

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    i think the body produces more than 70mg per week more like 40mg ed,might be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa pain
    i think the body produces more than 70mg per week more like 40mg ed,might be wrong.
    your wrong


    if your going to d a cycle you need pic a dose and stick to it. you need to ren the test even so you keep blood leves even. if you dont you will get more sides and less gains.

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    thanks for all the advice guys

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    if you body mad 40mg of test a night the would be 280mg week.

    so if you take 250mg test a week you will be 30mg behind the 8ball. after your natty test is shut down you will have less in your system

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    so your saying its only 70mg a week ?

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    thats just about it and guess what as you get older that## goes down.


    that sucks

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    anyone else got some thing to say ?

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    i have decided to go with 1 shot of testaviron every 3.5 days and maybe some winny i will see how it goes.

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    why do all u guys log on and not say a word ?

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    I gained about 20lbs on 250/wk testoviron . Take nolva while on to prevent gyno

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    just read the body produces between 2-12mg test a day..there was a post thread on this earlier..

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    there is nothing more to say. 250mg a week will help you gain muscle. with 500mg you will gain even more.


    what other question do you have.

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    im in week 4 of test e only at 350mg week. ive ran high dose test cycles in the past as high as 750mg/wk. ive gained 13 lb already. i know my body. anything over say 500mg is counterprodcutive. too many sides, and besides something has to be said for the difference in the amount of test you inject and the amount the body uses. there is a difference. receptor concept, etc. so for me anything over 500mg is counterproductive and overkill. then again i dont drink alcohol or eat fast food and hungry mans every day while i cycle.

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    Question Dont knw how to post!!

    Im 6'0 210lbs 22yrs old been workin out hormone free for 3yrs..neva used it
    gained pretty good size started out at 160 now im 210-215 on and off. NOw im old enough and got my hands on some good gear. Deca 250 and test cyp 200mg/ml.
    thinkin of doin weeks 1-10 deca and weeks 1-11 test cyp
    goin to run 250mg a week for deca and 300mg a week of test cyp.
    Prob goin to do evista and avodart. wat do u guys think. I train 5times a week but when i take the gear plannig on workin out every day. sorry dont knw how to post my own..so i fig i give this a shot.

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