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  • TEST must be the base of any cycle.

    21 35.59%
  • TEST should be the base of any cycle.

    24 40.68%
  • TEST does not need to be the base of all cycle.

    11 18.64%
  • TEST should not be used in certain cycles.

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    TEST as a base for ALL cycles?

    As a newbie, I am very intrigued by this question. Some people think that TEST should be a base of all cycles. I propose that we poll to see who thinks this and to what extent and also WHY people think it.

    Cheers!

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    everyone would think test should be a base for all cycle's

    because of libido issue's not running test

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    you dont need test in a cycle. you just might be ****ing for a long ass time.

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    Test should be, it's not a must, but test is what makes a man a man, so I use in every cycle

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    I would not dream of running a cycle with no test. Only a chick should consider it, IMHO. I would like to see a controlled experiment where two groups of guys ran identical cycles except one had test and one not... and compare them not only at the end of the cycle, but also 4 months later. Flattened libido is only a part of the whole syndrome of having lots of gear in the body but zero test and none being produced.


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    test is the ground work for any good cycle.

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    What I find suprising is that no one feels that in certain situations test maybe isn't desirable. What if a person has no desire to be HUGE, but gain a few lbs of muscle, lose a few lbs of fat. You can't deny that people have DRAMATICALLY altered their bodies without TEST. In fact they say in the old days 70`s it was deca and dbol .

    Don`t get me wrong I am still open minded!

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    hope no one minds a bump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazeKat
    As a newbie, I am very intrigued by this question. Some people think that TEST should be a base of all cycles. I propose that we poll to see who thinks this and to what extent and also WHY people think it.
    Cheers!
    Its not just a libido issue. You have a man's body and a man's brain. Your body becomes dependant and addicted to your own testosterone , so if you take a non-testosterone steroid , you will drop to zero, gains are inhibited because of serious deficiency of testosterone but also your mental health suffers. You get an onset of clinical depression and for some it can lead to suicidal thoughts, to say the least, when you are depressed you dont want to workout as much so you never get as much out of a cycle that doesnt have test as compared to one that does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazeKat
    What I find suprising is that no one feels that in certain situations test maybe isn't desirable. What if a person has no desire to be HUGE, but gain a few lbs of muscle, lose a few lbs of fat. You can't deny that people have DRAMATICALLY altered their bodies without TEST. In fact they say in the old days 70`s it was deca and dbol .

    Don`t get me wrong I am still open minded!
    Dbol is really methyl testosterone pills... it IS a testosterone, so are anadrols to some extent... tren , EQ, deca, winstrol are not testosterone at all although they can hit some of the testosterone receptors.... the receptors in the muscles sometimes accepts deca or tren better then the real testosterone but these non-testosterones hit NO receptors in the brain or sex organs thus you get clinical depression and a dead sex drive. We take testosterone primarily to prevent your body from starving badly for testosterone, afterall it is a vital and natural hormone in your body just like thyroid, insulin , etc.

    Not only that but there is some research that suggest when your body goes thru periods of low or no testosterone, this period makes you very vulnerable to develop enlarged prostate or testicular cancers later in life.

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    Test is best

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    Sorry, did not mean to hi-jack thread, moved question to appropriate seperate post.
    Last edited by Drengr; 07-31-2005 at 05:04 PM.

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    Moved
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    I havent even noticed that all the cycles that i have ever tryed to come up with in my mind all ran with test ... just somethign interesting but ya i like running test also

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    there must be loads of DHT-X- NANDROLENE cycles you can run i dont think u need test in every cycle

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    Ntpadude,

    More please, Ide like to learn,

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    heres some derivatives of DHT,- anadrol or anapolon are oxymethelone(DHT) anavar masteron , primobolan proviron winstrol
    then u have your nandrolones and blends thereof, then u have derivatives of nandrolone e.g parabolan im sure somewhere in there there are some good cycles
    heres one i have witnessed a friend do and im sure many others have tried
    trenbelone and winstrol u dont need test in EVERY cycle

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    I smell a R(oss)at.........

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    What about HGH cycles? Would test be necessary for those as well?

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    IMO it must be in every cycle because of great strength and mass gains, libido issues, it stacks with anything and everything, it has great synergistics properties......test is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPancho
    I smell a R(oss)at.........

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    I smell IT too, as I have SEEN how he WRITES and he ASKED a question yet is now ARGUING a point and TAKING a stance already.

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    should be the base

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