need some advice!

**baba_021** · 07-31-2005, 05:05 AM

hella Im about to begin a new cycle. I have only one earlier experince with steroids and it consisted of test e 500mg/week for eight weeks. the results were ok but but I didnt like the smal bloating I got, even using 10mg nolva everyday.

these are the stuff I can get

arimidex 1mg
nolvadex 10mg
winstrol
deca
sustanon
testosteron propionate
testosteron enanthate
trenbolone acetate
insulin
HCG
eq
clomid
my stats are 70 kg, 175cm 21 years old. very little fat.

my goals with this new cycle is to gain 5-10kg lean muscle mass, no fat and no water retetion, or as low as possible! and also Im a lover of vascularity! And Im not prone to MLB but lost some hair on my last cycle and want to keep my hair.
prefebaly 6-8 weeks cycle

so what are your suggestions? any help, advice and info is much appreciated!

thanks baba

**stocky121** · 07-31-2005, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by baba_021

hella Im about to begin a new cycle. I have only one earlier experince with steroids and it consisted of test e 500mg/week for eight weeks. the results were ok but but I didnt like the smal bloating I got, even using 10mg nolva everyday.

these are the stuff I can get

arimidex 1mg
nolvadex 10mg
winstrol
deca
sustanon
testosteron propionate
testosteron enanthate
trenbolone acetate
insulin
HCG
eq
clomid
my stats are 70 kg, 175cm 21 years old. very little fat.

my goals with this new cycle is to gain 5-10kg lean muscle mass, no fat and no water retetion, or as low as possible! and also Im a lover of vascularity! And Im not prone to MLB but lost some hair on my last cycle and want to keep my hair.

so what are your suggestions? any help, advice and info is much appreciated!

thanks baba

if you can handdle ED injection's i would go with

week 1-10 75mg prop ed
week 1-8 50mg tren a ed
prefebaly 6-8 weeks cycle

**MuckDog** · 07-31-2005, 05:13 AM

test e with winny - you will be set

**baba_021** · 07-31-2005, 05:13 AM

ok what about pct and how to keep bloating and side effects as low as possible? isnt tren a bit to strong for newbie as me?

**stocky121** · 07-31-2005, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by baba_021

ok what about pct and how to keep bloating and side effects as low as possible? isnt tren a bit to strong for newbie as me?

maybe but at 50mg it is a low dose i'am doing my third cycle and running it at 75 mg ed with 800mg of test a week and have no side's except sweating a lot

i don't think you would get much bloat of prop and tren

**baba_021** · 07-31-2005, 05:20 AM

whast about pct? should I run nolva during cycle or arimidex for the bloating and estrogenic sides? and what should I tAKE FOR MY BALLS, HCG DURING cycle or clomid after or both?
also the progestrone?

**stocky121** · 07-31-2005, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by baba_021

whast about pct? should I run nolva during cycle or arimidex for the bloating and estrogenic sides? and what should I tAKE FOR MY BALLS, HCG DURING cycle or clomid after or both?
also the progestrone?

if your botherd more about bloating i would take arimidex through your cycle

you will not need HCG for PCT or through cycle because your only doing a short cycle you will need clomid and nolvadex for PCT

and 200mg of vitamin B6 ED if your going to run tren
and maybe 25mcg of t3 ed (but that's opitinal)

**baba_021** · 07-31-2005, 05:36 AM

ok what about the doses for pct?
are there other alternatives if I wanna avoid everyday injections?

thans G unot hehe game over

**stocky121** · 07-31-2005, 05:40 AM

have a look at this thread for pct dosage

Pheedno's PCT

also if you don't want to shoot ED you could go with

week 1-13 test eth 500mg ew
week 1-12 EQ 400mg ew

split into one injection every 3.5 day's (twice a week)

all thing is with this you will have to run your cycle longer but still no need for HCG