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07-31-2005, 05:31 PM #1Associate Member
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Is buying juice in ampules better??
Is buying juice in sealed glass ampules more guareenteed its the real thing??
If its sealed in glass @ manufacturing then it has to be legit right?
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07-31-2005, 05:36 PM #2
no & no
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just because it is a amp dose not mean it's real. there are just as meny fakes ot ther as vials
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07-31-2005, 07:35 PM #4
not always i found many fake deca , sus, test e
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07-31-2005, 07:38 PM #5Associate Member
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ok thanks alot
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07-31-2005, 07:41 PM #6Associate Member
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If its sealed in glass at manufacturing then the only way it can be fake is if the label or print was tampered with right? Or are people making exact replica of the bottles and labels but containing something else?
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07-31-2005, 07:45 PM #7
You can buy amp sealers for $4000
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07-31-2005, 08:07 PM #8
stories of stuff being faked right out of the factory by workers who can steal labels and shizz
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07-31-2005, 08:09 PM #9Associate Member
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For every product made theres always someone who knows there way around it !
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07-31-2005, 10:01 PM #10Junior Member
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I have had fake amps. Also, I don't like the idea of injecting small glass particles into my body. Much better idea is to use Watson filter and preload syringes.
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08-01-2005, 12:45 AM #11
WTF is a "watson" filter? How would you use it to preload a syringe? LOL
To the OP, amps can be sealed without any special equipment. You can easily make a contrivance that enables you to rotate the amp in a torch flame and seal that rascal pretty nicely with a little practice. Amps might not be faked as often as vials, but they definitely are faked somesimes.
Amps suck in many ways. First of all, while I have never had an amp shatter on me, others report this to be a common occurance. Secondly, when you open an amp, you are violating the sterile integrity and you must do something with all the juice in the amp immediately. Yes, you can pre-load syringes, but it is still inconvenient. What if you are running 300mg cyp E3D and you have a choice between 250mg amps and a multi-use vial containing 10ml of the same gear... which is more convenient? Do you want to have to plan your cycle around an arbitrary amount of gear found in an ampule? Vials offer greater flexibility and convenience in dosing. Thirdly, vials will invariably be cheaper than amps. You pay a lot extra for the packaging, which does not make you any bigger than packing in vials, and in fact is less convenient. So... pay more for a greater PITA factor? Not this kid. Vials for me, unless somebody just makes me a deal I can't refuse.
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08-01-2005, 09:07 AM #12
I disagree with Baron on one point....Cost.
A 1g/wk cycle for 10 wks of 250mg/ml Testovirons will run me around $160.
If I bought bought 10ml vials of QV enth dirt cheap from a pharm in Mexico it would be slightly higher in price. I'd say $180 or so.
(4ml/wk * 10wk = 40ml necessary -> 4vials x $45)
UGL prices will blow away single amp prices, but vet and human grade gear will cost you more since it was manufactured under stricter conditions than someone's kitchen.
Convenience and dosing issues are reasons to stay away from amps, but I don't think an amp shattering should be an issue if you use a real cutter.
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08-01-2005, 11:10 AM #13
Well, that's a darn good price for the testoviron . I don't see amps of anything that cheap around here. In fact some bozo tried to sell me a half dozen amps of sust for $100 recently LOL! Guy didn't even know me... followed me out of the walgreens after seeing me buy alcohol swabs and figured I probably wasn't diabetic.
I see little reason to avoid UGLs. I filter anything doubtful, anyway, including pharm stuff that I did not actually shop for myself. That said, amps cost more. If one insists on only pharm gear, then of course the difference narrows, and in your example, reverses. I have never seen this to happen so I am glad you posted that.
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08-01-2005, 11:52 AM #14
Baron,
I do have a pretty sweet hookup on the Testos.
Most amps of any test will run the avg. domestic buyer 7-11 bucks depending on how many hands it has been through, so in that case any vial will probably be cheaper.
That's hysterical that you were solicited to buy outside of a ****ing pharmacy. Never heard of juice being sold on the street, but somehow I am not surprised. I picture a guy with dark black sunglasses and a trenchcoat opening it up and amps/vials/baggies are hanging like fake watches.
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08-01-2005, 12:06 PM #15Originally Posted by daem
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08-01-2005, 12:07 PM #16
all matter of opinion really. Baron made excellen point... not as cheap and more inconvenient...
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08-01-2005, 01:22 PM #17Originally Posted by daem
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08-01-2005, 01:36 PM #18
thats a sad sad story ..what a dumb ass.. but your probly right hes just trying to rip some dude that dont know shit, and supporting his own habbit..
i would have laughed my ass off when he said 6 amps for $100..
~DV~
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