Mariusz Pudzianowski's size to weight ratio??

**JuicyJim** · 08-01-2005, 04:26 PM

When i look at Mariusz Pudzianowski i defitley dont' think he weights the 290 lbs he is listed at, he just dont' look as big as other guys like ronnie coleman who are listed at that weight, maybe it's an illusion. or it could be he carries most of his weight in his legs, THERE HUGE. anyway here are my questions.

1) how has Mariusz been able to stay muscle bound free? he's 6'0 ft, 290 lbs at 8% bodyfat, if ronnie coleman who is about the same height to weight ration tried to do what Mariusz does he would look like a fool. anybody who saw ronnie on jay leno knows what i'm talking about.

2) how has Mariusz been able to stay gh gut free?

3) what type of gear do you think he runs to get so big with a low bodyfat percentage.

look at these photos to see the difference

**stocky121** · 08-01-2005, 05:10 PM

at a guess and just a guess

low dose gh slin test susp tren a var IGF1

**Keyser Sozey** · 08-01-2005, 05:16 PM

myostatin blocker?

**Nicky B** · 08-01-2005, 06:55 PM

Well Mariusz is about 1-1.5inches taller then ronnie and only around 20pounds lighter. And I guess that he is running atleast 3grams of test, igf-1, gh and maybe tren . And I don't think he is using myo inhibitors, he be much bigger.

**TheChosenOne** · 08-01-2005, 06:57 PM

Dont forget the cocaine he takes. He is rumored to have failed his last drug screen for that. Plus it makes you strong as f*ck!

**Gorgoroth_** · 08-01-2005, 10:11 PM

Please explain how cocaine makes you stronger and how would coke make him weigh 290 and how do you know that he tested for coke ? all the public knows is that he was tested positive for a " rec drug ". Thats a pretty broad term.

**ant_8u** · 08-02-2005, 07:03 PM

Good question bro!

I was thinking about something similar myself

I weigh 185lbs,

When i look on this site, other members that are my weight look much bigger than i do

I don't look as heavy as i am

I have a friend who weighs 170lbs and he looks a similar size to another friend of mine who weighs 220lbs

They're near the same height and "size" but one is 50lbs heavier

What's that all about?!

**nickm748** · 08-02-2005, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

Good question bro!

I was thinking about something similar myself

I weigh 185lbs,

When i look on this site, other members that are my weight look much bigger than i do

I don't look as heavy as i am

I have a friend who weighs 170lbs and he looks a similar size to another friend of mine who weighs 220lbs

They're near the same height and "size" but one is 50lbs heavier

What's that all about?!

Maybe it could be bone density that has such a big role in weight

**Rob** · 08-02-2005, 08:01 PM

as well as fat...

**ant_8u** · 08-02-2005, 08:08 PM

Yeah, maybe bone density and tendons etc.

I'd still like to hear opinions about Mariusz

Why is he bigger than Ronnie but looks like a normal big fella
Where as Ronnie looks like he does?

Mariusz's bones can't be that much denser can they?

**JuicyJim** · 08-02-2005, 09:32 PM

it's very werid, his upper body is huge dont' get me wrong, but it just doesn't look like it belongs to a 6'0 290 lb man. his legs are very massive though, that's one thing i respect about Mariusz Pudzianowski, he's not some top heavy douche bag, if anything his legs far out shine his upperbody.

**Liftgod84** · 08-02-2005, 10:19 PM

Well if you break it down. . .Ronnie is a bodybuilder and even though he lifts for strength, so a lot of core lifts, like bench, squat, deadlifts, he is still a bodybuilder and lifts also for size and symmetry. Mariusz on the other hand is a strongman, and me being a strongman competitior and being around it for a while, know, we don't lift to look good, we don't lift for symmetry. We only lift for strength, we only train for strength. And that is going to play a big part in the way muslces are shaped and the way someone looks.

**TheChosenOne** · 08-02-2005, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Gorgoroth_

Please explain how cocaine makes you stronger and how would coke make him weigh 290 and how do you know that he tested for coke ? all the public knows is that he was tested positive for a " rec drug ". Thats a pretty broad term.

You ever lifted on coke? Try it and come back and tell me you cant throw more weight around than you can when not on it. I know many guys that will take coke before they hit the gym routinely for that sole purpose. In fact my buddy just blew his ACL squatting nearly 700lb while coked up. And don't patronize me like Im the sole person to speculate coke usage by Marius. Hell that was all over the place months ago when he failed his test. What rec drug you think he was doing X and working out?
Coke would make him remain lean and strong as hell.

**ant_8u** · 08-03-2005, 05:57 AM

So is it possible that Mariusz has denser muscles too?

**j martini** · 08-03-2005, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

Yeah, maybe bone density and tendons etc.

I'd still like to hear opinions about Mariusz

Why is he bigger than Ronnie but looks like a normal big fella
Where as Ronnie looks like he does?

Mariusz's bones can't be that much denser can they?

Well coleman started out at about 170 pounds so he has gained about 120 pounds of muscle. Mariusz could have started at 210-220 pounds. Also coleman has much smaller joints and bone structure.

So the end result is both guys are 290 pounds, but coleman probably is carrying an extra 40 pounds of muscle on his frame, thus he appears much larger.

**Deezuhl** · 08-03-2005, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheChosenOne

You ever lifted on coke? Try it and come back and tell me you cant throw more weight around than you can when not on it. I know many guys that will take coke before they hit the gym routinely for that sole purpose. In fact my buddy just blew his ACL squatting nearly 700lb while coked up. And don't patronize me like Im the sole person to speculate coke usage by Marius. Hell that was all over the place months ago when he failed his test. What rec drug you think he was doing X and working out?
Coke would make him remain lean and strong as hell.

I have never done coke or any rec drug for that matter but i have heard the same.. i would say he wasnt smoking weed before lifting..

**Big M** · 08-03-2005, 07:42 AM

I saw him pose here in stockholm 2 month ago, He was very BIG. saw Dexter pose after and he looked alot smaler (but better)

**big an rich** · 08-03-2005, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

So is it possible that Mariusz has denser muscles too?

I think thats what it has to be. And it could also by synthoil on Ronnie, Mariusz won't bother pumping himself full of that to look good, he just needs to be strong as hell.

**Sigmund Froid** · 08-03-2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Gorgoroth_

Please explain how cocaine makes you stronger and how would coke make him weigh 290 and how do you know that he tested for coke ? all the public knows is that he was tested positive for a " rec drug ". Thats a pretty broad term.

There is good research indicating that cocaine temporarily improves strength. It is a powerful appetite suppressant, toxic to the cardio vascular system, and not well-suited for bodybuilding or powerlifting. You could have a stroke or heart attack. However, like nicotine, cocaine improves strength.

**Sigmund Froid** · 08-03-2005, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by TheChosenOne

You ever lifted on coke? Try it and come back and tell me you cant throw more weight around than you can when not on it. I know many guys that will take coke before they hit the gym routinely for that sole purpose. In fact my buddy just blew his ACL squatting nearly 700lb while coked up. And don't patronize me like Im the sole person to speculate coke usage by Marius. Hell that was all over the place months ago when he failed his test. What rec drug you think he was doing X and working out?
Coke would make him remain lean and strong as hell.

Bro, I just can't imagine someone maxing out with really heavy weight, while having their heart already going 120bpm before they even pick up a weight.

**znak** · 08-03-2005, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by TheChosenOne

Dont forget the cocaine he takes. He is rumored to have failed his last drug screen for that. Plus it makes you strong as f*ck!

Coke will make you seem stronger because you don't feel the pain (Peruvian marching powder), but it suppresses your appetite and is highly catabolic.

Not a good mass drug at all!!!!

**JuicyJim** · 08-03-2005, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by j martini

Well coleman started out at about 170 pounds so he has gained about 120 pounds of muscle. Mariusz could have started at 210-220 pounds. Also coleman has much smaller joints and bone structure.

So the end result is both guys are 290 pounds, but coleman probably is carrying an extra 40 pounds of muscle on his frame, thus he appears much larger.

this seems to make the most sense, you think mariuz could be a bodybuilder j martini?

ps- i'm not questioning your knowledge your probably right, but how did you know that coleman had smaller joins and bone strcture?

Here are some pictures for people to compare and contrast.

**Ranger5** · 08-03-2005, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by JuicyJim

this seems to make the most sense, you think mariuz could be a bodybuilder j martini?

ps- i'm not questioning your knowledge your probably right, but how did you know that coleman had smaller joins and bone strcture?

Here are some pictures for people to compare and contrast.

Awesome pics, both are absolutely amazing. Whatever they do, works. probably have ground up gorilla nuts for breakfast.

**JuicyJim** · 08-03-2005, 09:49 AM

yes they truly are amazing, here are some more pics of the world's greatest bodybuilder and strong man.

**Gassy** · 08-03-2005, 02:56 PM

It's all genetics. Anybody know what kind of weights Mariuz uses in the gym? It may be less than Ronnie. Strongman contests need functional strength, there is a difference between weightroom and functional strength. Anybody who has ever wrestled will agree with this.

**europeman** · 08-03-2005, 03:12 PM

mariusz uses 35 IU of gh I heard from a insider

**Swifto** · 08-03-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by europeman

mariusz uses 35 IU of gh I heard from a insider

No doubt he uses GH, but at this dose I have to disagree. More between 12-18IU's.

**Liftgod84** · 08-03-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Gassy

It's all genetics. Anybody know what kind of weights Mariuz uses in the gym? It may be less than Ronnie. Strongman contests need functional strength, there is a difference between weightroom and functional strength. Anybody who has ever wrestled will agree with this.

Dude, I compete strongman, and gym strength def. transfers no problem to functional competition strength. There is some technique training you need to do and you need to get acclamated with some of the apparatus, but more or less, if you are strong in the gym, you would do pretty well in competition. Unless your like Glenn Ross and weigh 400lbs, then it is just difficult to move around. As for Mariusz's weights, pretty similar to Coleman's. I read that he goes up to 495 on flat bench, in excess of 800 on squats, around 800 for deadlifts.

**Nicky B** · 08-03-2005, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by europeman

mariusz uses 35 IU of gh I heard from a insider

That dose could probably really kill you. I'm guessing around 10iu's is what he uses.

**hardcorehulk** · 08-03-2005, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJim

it's very werid, his upper body is huge dont' get me wrong, but it just doesn't look like it belongs to a 6'0 290 lb man. his legs are very massive though, that's one thing i respect about Mariusz Pudzianowski, he's not some top heavy douche bag, if anything his legs far out shine his upperbody.

I was thinking the exact same thing....

**europeman** · 08-03-2005, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

That dose could probably really kill you. I'm guessing around 10iu's is what he uses.

could kill you... why? i will run 10 IU over a few months then up it till I am at around 30/40Iu a day

**Nicky B** · 08-03-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by europeman

could kill you... why? i will run 10 IU over a few months then up it till I am at around 30/40Iu a day

You can't be serious. Maybe you want a ronnie gut then more power to you

**ant_8u** · 08-03-2005, 05:34 PM

Mariusz's stats from 2003

Biceps 22"
Forearms 18"
Waist 36"
Quads 32"
Chest 58"
Height 6' 1"
Weight 290lbs

Bench 605
Squat 800
Deadlift 900

Who's the man?!

**Nicky B** · 08-03-2005, 05:41 PM

Hopefully those lifts are little better for next years strong man.

**ant_8u** · 08-03-2005, 05:54 PM

No doubt he's improved since then

I'd guess they were his 1RM's but it didn't specify that

Remember, you don't really max out at the strongman like you would in the gym

They either do multiple lifts
(military pressing logs)

Or lift once, add more weight and lift again straight away
(deadlifting a car whilst adding passengers each lift - or the Atlas stones)

**Gassy** · 08-03-2005, 06:08 PM

Anyone know what his weight routine is like?

**ant_8u** · 08-03-2005, 06:25 PM

I don't think he has a gym routine to speak of

I think it's more practicing the techniques needed for the contests

There's no way you can lift those Atlas stones by lifting weights in the gym

You have to get out there and practice picking them up over and over again

Those stones weigh alot

1st = 260lbs
2nd = 290lbs
3rd = 320lbs
4th = 350lbs
5th = 380lbs

Whilst he probably will have a gym routine i'm sure it's not the focus of his training

**lfrisbee** · 08-03-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

Mariusz's stats from 2003

Biceps 22"
Forearms 18"
Waist 36"
Quads 32"
Chest 58"
Height 6' 1"
Weight 290lbs

Bench 605
Squat 800
Deadlift 900

Who's the man?!

Holy crap... 18" forearms??? I'm starting to feel grossly inadequate

**ant_8u** · 08-03-2005, 07:28 PM

Anyone remember Manfred Hoeberl?

A strongman competitor in the early 90's

He had a good physique like Mariusz

Not sure what he weighed in at, but the man had 26-27" arms!

Remember, he was a strongman competitor, no synthol for him!

**Liftgod84** · 08-03-2005, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

I don't think he has a gym routine to speak of

I think it's more practicing the techniques needed for the contests

There's no way you can lift those Atlas stones by lifting weights in the gym

You have to get out there and practice picking them up over and over again

Those stones weigh alot

1st = 260lbs
2nd = 290lbs
3rd = 320lbs
4th = 350lbs
5th = 380lbs

Whilst he probably will have a gym routine i'm sure it's not the focus of his training

Stones aren't that heavy, Lightest is 220, heaviest 335. I compete in strongman. I don't know where you got those numbers. And there is ways you can train for the stones in the gym, I have done, works pretty well. If you really want me to explain how, I can, but I don't feel like typing it right now.

Here is a sample training routine for Mariusz:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_248884/printable.ht