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    Doh! Over dosage for first cycle?

    I came across a bit of a shock last night. Was just checking my stash of gear and noticed the dosage on my Sust... 250mg per 1ml. I've somehow completely ignored this thinking it was the same Xmg per 1ml as my Deca . I'm on 500mg of Deca a week, and thought I was on 600mg of Sust a week. It turns out that due to my complete idoiocy and not paying attention, I've been taking nearly 1200mg of Sust a week.

    I'm on week 9 of both, should I carry on to week 12 at the same dosage, or drop it down? If I drop it down to say 600-750 will I still continue to see benefits after being on such a much higher dose for so long?

    Thanks

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    if youve been on 9 week's you might as well keep it at the same dosage

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    1200mg of sust divided by 250mg/ml = 4.8cc
    Have you been injecting 4.8cc of sust a week?

    500mg of deca divided by 4.8cc = 104mg/ml
    Is your deca 104mg per ml?

    The numbers don't add up.

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    Sorry, that wasn't totally accurate, I just knew it was at least twice of what I should have been. Here's my cycle.

    Week 1-6 1ml Deca 100 EOD (~400mg/wk)
    Week 2-6 1.25ml Sust 250 EOD (~1250mg/wk)
    (increased dosage from here)
    Week 6-12 1.25ml Deca 100 EOD (~500mg/wk)
    Week 6-12 1.5ml of Sus 250 EOD (~1500mg/wk)
    Week 9-15 50mg Winny ED (just started this Monday)

    2-3 x 30mg Ephederine ED Week 7-9 for a boost before my work out and to burn a bit of fat. Now at 185lb & 8% BF but I seem to get winded easy since I started taking the eph's so I'm going to chill out on those after this week.

    I'm on week 9 now, started Winny on Monday to harden things up as I near the end of my bulk cycle.

    Not the perfect cycle, but its my first and its been a learning experience that I'm satified of the results from. My primary concern is that I might crash hard after taking all that Sust. I'm suprised I'm still able to even see my nads, they have shrunken a bit, but they still work just fine.

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    Like stocky121 said. You might just as well continue as is till the end.

    1500mg sust & 500mg deca is a hefty dose for a first cycle. You must have made some decent gains.
    Last edited by eGGz; 08-03-2005 at 07:25 PM.

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    How much did you gain?

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    wordddd what kind of gains did you get from that?

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    I have to ask too just because i want to: How much did you gain?

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    a lot i bet

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    I've gained about 20lbs. Totally minimal water rention, just solid goodness!

    A few sides though, random hard-ons thoughout the day (entertaining, but has the potential to be embrassing), little bit of hair loss, and bad skin. I seem to be on edge/agressive, but I'm not sure if thats just a psychological thing. I hear its not been proven that test actually increases your agression so I'm not sure, but sometimes.... sometimes....!!!

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    make sure to do a perfect pct

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    kinda sucks you went that high because if you try to do low doses in your next cycle you'll be dissapointed by the results compared to this one. sounds like you are doing good though even with the mishap. i did the same thing last time. planned to do 1200mg test and screwed up and landed on 2000mg a week. i think both of us need to pay more attention to dosing sometimes.

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    2000 a week?? Whoa, what was your outcome from that?

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    Whoa, 2000?! Heh, yeah, we do need to pay more attention to our dosages :-)

    Its PCT that I'm worried about, I don't want to crash hard when I come of this. I still have another 3 weeks left and from what I understand our gains will slow down after week 8-10 or something so I think I'll taper it down to 750 but I don't want to lose functionality of my frank & beans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasgeo
    Sorry, that wasn't totally accurate, I just knew it was at least twice of what I should have been. Here's my cycle.

    Week 1-6 1ml Deca 100 EOD (~400mg/wk)
    350mg/week


    Week 2-6 1.25ml Sust 250 EOD (~1250mg/wk)
    1093.75mg/week.


    (increased dosage from here)
    Week 6-12 1.25ml Deca 100 EOD (~500mg/wk)
    437.5 mg/week


    Week 6-12 1.5ml of Sus 250 EOD (~1500mg/wk)
    1312.5 mg/week


    There ya go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasgeo
    I've gained about 20lbs. Totally minimal water rention, just solid goodness!

    A few sides though, random hard-ons thoughout the day (entertaining, but has the potential to be embrassing), little bit of hair loss, and bad skin. I seem to be on edge/agressive, but I'm not sure if thats just a psychological thing. I hear its not been proven that test actually increases your agression so I'm not sure, but sometimes.... sometimes....!!!
    20lbs? I have gained that +5lbs off of deca only at 200-400 mg/week for 5 weeks. I know deca only "bad", but the point I am trying to make is higher dosage does not equal more gains. Sometimes less is better.

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    Deca only Dr_ma?! Did you not value the use of your penis?!

    All kidding aside, i think its important that we don't encourage people to use this much on thier first cycle.

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    Dr Ma, you hit the nail on the head with that Deca statement. It all depends on your receptors. If you can get by(like me, He he) with less, then so be it. However, there is a crossover point. You probably could have gained 20 pounds off of one anadrol a day for eight weeks. As far as PCT, I've never done it. Think about this. You peak out on your compounds at the six to twelve week mark. Then, it takes about five weeks(after running out) to truly lose a significant amount. Why not design your cycle around this? Take it for seven weeks and lay off for five.

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    [QUOTE=jasgeo]Deca only Dr_ma?! Did you not value the use of your penis?!


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