steroids to solve a shoulder problem

**TallMan** · 08-04-2005, 06:08 AM

hi I'm TallMan from holland, how are ya'll doing ?

I was talking with BeastN1 about solving my shoulder problem
administering deca or boldenon(eq)

I would like to cycle 10 weeks of boldenon, cause I heard its better than deca
and without the risc of getting a deca dick.
My plan is to not train the first weeks till the pain is completely gone
and then train very light en on the end build up a little bit.
I'm also thinking about adding HGH for the recovery.

I'm wondering how ya'll think about this matter !

The injury story:
Since over a year ago I had to stop training cause of my shoulder.
I went to the physiotherapist for a while but when I started training
te problem kept on returning.
April 8th this year I had an operation cause the found out that I had
an shoulder impingement, so they needed to make room and sawed off some bone.
After 3 months of revalidating the physio. told me to start my normal
training routine again, so I did.
After a few weeks she told me I could add some more weight but I think
it was a little to early cause now I feel a little bit pain again.
That was about 3 weeks ago and it's still a bit painfull in some movements.
Everytime I start training I **** up my shoulder again

**stocky121** · 08-04-2005, 06:19 AM

have a look at this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165475

if you can get a hold of it

it would be much better than deca or eq

**CapnZ** · 08-04-2005, 06:25 AM

Are you currently taking glucosomine / chondroitin or msm? Might be worth a try also - its helped me with shoulder / middle back issues. My chiro highly recommended it.

**jrock38** · 08-04-2005, 06:28 AM

I have the same issue with my right shoulder but I have not had surgery. I just work through it right now. Deca seemed to help for a couple weeks. Im on test e, eq and tren right now havent realy seen any difference from the eq. I cannot do flat bench or decline with straight bar but I can with dumbells???? Do you notice what causes the pain more? I would just stay away from that particular excercise. JMO tho

**TallMan** · 08-04-2005, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by jrock38

I have the same issue with my right shoulder but I have not had surgery. I just work through it right now. Deca seemed to help for a couple weeks. Im on test e, eq and tren right now havent realy seen any difference from the eq. I cannot do flat bench or decline with straight bar but I can with dumbells???? Do you notice what causes the pain more? I would just stay away from that particular excercise. JMO tho

I can't do any chest exercises, so avoiding those wont do me any good

Originally Posted by CapnZ

Are you currently taking glucosomine / chondroitin or msm? Might be worth a try also - its helped me with shoulder / middle back issues. My chiro highly recommended it.

tried it, helped my knee problem but the shoulder problem remained
I want to use it with my cycle anyway, maybe it'll help a bit

Originally Posted by stocky121

have a look at this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165475

if you can get a hold of it

it would be much better than deca or eq

looks interesting, I'll find out if my dealer has that kinda stuff

**CRUISECONTROL** · 08-04-2005, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

have a look at this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165475

if you can get a hold of it

it would be much better than deca or eq

Nice post Stocky

**TallMan** · 08-04-2005, 09:52 AM

unfortunately my dealer doesnt sell this stuff

**stocky121** · 08-04-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by TallMan

unfortunately my dealer doesnt sell this stuff

yes it is hard to get hold of

i think it's just used for animal's at the minute and is not givin to humans but is ment to work like a dream

**TallMan** · 08-04-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

yes it is hard to get hold of

i think it's just used for animal's at the minute and is not givin to humans but is ment to work like a dream

yeah, I just read some shit about it and I think it could help me,
Ima contact some friends to see if they know anyone selling this magic potion

but in the meantime....Any tips about boldenon/deca /hgh ?

**stocky121** · 08-04-2005, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by TallMan

yeah, I just read some shit about it and I think it could help me,
Ima contact some friends to see if they know anyone selling this magic potion

but in the meantime....Any tips about boldenon/deca/hgh ?

deca would be your best bet but i would run some test with it so you dont get deca dick

**eGGz** · 08-04-2005, 10:29 AM

Here's a thread regarding alflutop

I've never tried it but it sounds promising.

**beast N°1** · 08-04-2005, 03:41 PM

help this bro out people , he needs to get back in the gym and train his ****ing ass off!
i would prefere boldenon over deca , less sides and cleaner gains also.

**TallMan** · 08-05-2005, 04:04 AM

bump, ya''ll opions please

I'm also wondering if anyone knows how I could get alflutop or Adequan (PSAG)

**beast N°1** · 08-05-2005, 05:04 AM

aint there anyone else with this problem?

**jerseyboy** · 08-05-2005, 06:38 AM

Is an impingement the same as a bone spur? If so I don't think deca , GH or Glucosamine is going to do anything.

**TallMan** · 08-05-2005, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

Is an impingement the same as a bone spur? If so I don't think deca , GH or Glucosamine is going to do anything.

I dont have the impignement anymore, they sawed off a piece of bone
to make room again.

What is a bone spur ?

**spud** · 08-05-2005, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by beast N°1

aint there anyone else with this problem?

Yeah, I have something similar going on in my knee. Adequan is available in the US but it's a vet prescription. Alflutop is available in apparently Russia and Romania.

I'm looking for either one myself.

**j-dog** · 08-05-2005, 08:37 AM

Have you guys ever rubbed a little DMSO on it foe about ten min it used to help my shoulders did eod foe 1 week or so

**dirtyvegas** · 08-05-2005, 08:53 AM

Anavar , Eq, deca are all supposed to be good with gologen synthesis Eq being #1 and anvar #2 and then deca i think....

Ide try Anavar cycle,, see what it does for you , never know.
or low dose test and Eq/deca you could incorperate them in many different ways..

~DV~

**jerseyboy** · 08-05-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by TallMan

I dont have the impignement anymore, they sawed off a piece of bone
to make room again.

What is a bone spur ?

A bone spur is an overgrowth of bone in the shoulder causing it to rub on another bone creating calcium buildup and can interfere with the nerves. It's usually occupation related and I have them in both shoulders. The doc says it's from working over my head all the time and he wants to do arthroscopic surgery to shave down the bones and create some clearance. EQ and Deca are known for hardening tendons and Glucosamine is for joints so i don't see how they could help with a bone or skeletal problem.

**jerseyboy** · 08-05-2005, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by spud

Yeah, I have something similar going on in my knee. Adequan is available in the US but it's a vet prescription. Alflutop is available in apparently Russia and Romania.

I'm looking for either one myself.

Is yours a knee cap problem? I had misaligned knee caps causing the cap to rub on the tibia and causing calcium to buildup. I did light leg lifts for a couple months as part of my rehab. and my knees are great now. I used to have trouble just bending down from the pain and now I'm doing 630 pounds on the leg press with no problems.

**spud** · 08-05-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

Is yours a knee cap problem? I had misaligned knee caps causing the cap to rub on the tibia and causing calcium to buildup. I did light leg lifts for a couple months as part of my rehab. and my knees are great now. I used to have trouble just bending down from the pain and now I'm doing 630 pounds on the leg press with no problems.

Thanks for asking Jerseyboy.

No my problem is that I'm on the path to osteoarthritis and eventual knee replacement. Shot posterior cruciate ligament and bad meniscus from a couple of accidents make for a loose knee joint.

I just want to get as long as possible out of what I have before an ortho starts hacking me up - as there's no turning back then!

So I'm on a quest for alflutop or adequan.

spud

**crazykris6** · 08-05-2005, 04:37 PM

Sorry you got hurt bro. I hope you get better soon bro!

**jerseyboy** · 08-05-2005, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by spud

Thanks for asking Jerseyboy.

No my problem is that I'm on the path to osteoarthritis and eventual knee replacement. Shot posterior cruciate ligament and bad meniscus from a couple of accidents make for a loose knee joint.

I just want to get as long as possible out of what I have before an ortho starts hacking me up - as there's no turning back then!

So I'm on a quest for alflutop or adequan.

spud

I'm putting off my shoulder surgery too. I hear so many post surgery horror stories. It's like your never 100% again.

**spud** · 08-05-2005, 05:34 PM

I hear ya bro. Surgery should be the last resort. Too many people out there who are worse off than before the surgery. Orthopedic surgeons get paid to do surgery. It's like taking your car into a shop - of course they'll find something wrong - that's how they get paid!

Now that being said, there certainly are times where one needs surgery - I did after my first knee blowout and fortunately I had a real pro do it. Unfortunately there is no surgery that can be done to make my knee better after the last crash. Now it's just putting up with a slowly eroding joint.

The shoulder is pretty tricky to work on. No other joint in our body can do as much as the shoulder.

A couple things that have helped quite a bit was a really good physical therapist and glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM.

If you can strengthen all the little muscles, they will help support the joint, where the injured parts can't. That's where the PT has helped a lot. Essentially you can train muscles to take over for damaged ligaments. I think gear is helpful there too since one is strengthening muscles - it's sure helped with my knee!

The glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM helps a lot too but it takes about a month to really kick in.

Deca does help a bit, but not as much for me as perhaps for others.

good luck bro!
spud