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    I'm gonna kill my kidneys

    Ok guys, I know this cycle is pretty harsh but here goes

    Week 1~10 Prop/Tren -A 100mg/100mg ED
    Week 1~12 Prop 100mg ED
    Weeks 9~12 HCG (what do you guys recommend for the amount?)
    Weeks 1~12 10mg Nolva ED

    PCT the next day after prop
    Day 1~30 Clomid 100mg ED with a 300mg frontload
    Day 1~30 Nolva 20mg ED
    Day 1~30 L-Dex 0.5mg ED

    Then followed by a clen cycle or possibly DNP .

    So what do you think? Should I add tribulus?

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    I've never ran HCG before so I'd like some more knowledge on how to incorporate it into my cycle. Also, what do you think the effectiveness of the cycle will be? And will the gains be very hard to keep?

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    i dont see anything wrong with it

    but i would run the prop higher than the tren

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    I agree, I may bump prop to 150..But god damn taht's a shitload of gear!!!

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    i don't see how r gonna kill ur kidnet with that cycle?!!

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    Well from what i've read TrenA is very harsh on my body (esp. kidneys). I'm adminstering it ED and 100mg isn't exactly a light dosage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash31
    Well from what i've read TrenA is very harsh on my body (esp. kidneys). I'm adminstering it ED and 100mg isn't exactly a light dosage.

    you will be fine i'am running it at 75mg ed for 11 week's

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    You might not need to run HCG at all. I've only read of cats running it who are on a very lengthy cycle, like 24 weeks long. Not to say that it couldn't hurt with your PCT, anything to help wake up your boys is good, but I don't think that you'd need to run it for that length either. Maybe a week before your cycle ends to help wake them up, that way when your conclude your cycle and HCG usage, you will be rolling into your PCT with your boys awake and producing again. I could be wrong on this, though. Run a search and you shouldn't have an issue. I think there might be some info in the educational forums, both on dosage and duration.

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    Kidney troubles are overated as it relates to tren being the cause. If you are worried about it then take cranberry extract and uva ursi, they can be found in almost any supplement/healthfood store.

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    The advice I've goten on HCG is to run 500 - 1000 iu every 3 days or so. Make sure you run nolva alongside and finish up with hcg BEFORE beginning pct.

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    wow ... 200mg Prop and 100mg Tren .... good luck with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash31
    Ok guys, I know this cycle is pretty harsh but here goes

    Week 1~10 Prop/Tren -A 100mg/100mg ED
    Week 1~12 Prop 100mg ED
    Weeks 9~12 HCG (what do you guys recommend for the amount?)
    Weeks 1~12 10mg Nolva ED

    PCT the next day after prop
    Day 1~30 Clomid 100mg ED with a 300mg frontload
    Day 1~30 Nolva 20mg ED
    Day 1~30 L-Dex 0.5mg ED

    Then followed by a clen cycle or possibly DNP .

    So what do you think? Should I add tribulus?

    you dont need to run hcg with that cycle mate it aint long enuff,also start clomid therapy 3 days after last prop inj coz it takes 3 days to clear your system,otherwise your good to go.

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    This is the 1st time I run an all short ester cycle. Never done prop or tren before. What kind of gains should I be expecting? Hard to keep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash31
    This is the 1st time I run an all short ester cycle. Never done prop or tren before. What kind of gains should I be expecting? Hard to keep?
    nice dosage to start off with on your 1st tren and prop cycle. I wont pass 500mg ew tren... good luck..

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    Kidneys will be fine. It's better than people on here doing stupid only oral cycles. Now that will mess some liver up. Not to flame (well, actually who cares cuz it's the truth) but people do that cuz they're scared of needles. Yeah I said it. What? heheheh

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