First Cycle.. Deca/Dbol

[superpump]

Whats up everyone. New to these forums and ready to do my 1st cycle. Have used prohormones/legal steroids (ie. 1-test) but i have given it some thought and i am going to start a deca /dbol stack. (going to run it according to novice cycle I on steroid .com substituting deca for Test E)
Need a little help though
Figure i'd run Dbol weeks 1-4 20mg/day
Deca 400mg every 5 days. weeks 1-8
and post cycle according to that sample stack.
Have done a lot of research but would love some specifc pointers about this cycle.
I hope it isnt a waste of a cycle but according to the steroid profiles, this stack works very well. i'm 23 yrs old, 6 yrs lifting, 190lbs, 6%BF.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Matt

[eGGz]

You need test in that cycle!

Here's a good first cycle.

1-4 dbol @ 30mg ED
1-12 Test E or C 500mg EW

Inject the test twice a week I.E. Monday morning / Thursday evening

[Geeezer]

You need test in that cycle!

Here's a good first cycle.

1-4 dbol @ 30mg ED
1-12 Test E or C 500mg EW

Inject the test twice a week I.E. Monday morning / Thursday evening

Thats a good cycle to start with for sure....

[longhorn814]

first cycle should be test only. Those sample cycles on steroid .com are outdated. Do some research on here on how to cycle properly. Without taking test, especially with deca , you are risking the dreaded deca dick amongst other problems of not having any test in your body.

[Booz]

first cycle should be test only. Those sample cycles on steroid.com are outdated. Do some research on here on how to cycle properly. Without taking test, especially with deca, you are risking the dreaded deca dick amongst other problems of not having any test in your body.

good advice saved me sayin it!

[G-1000]

the guys are right. for a first cycle test only would be advised. if you still wont to run d-bol you can for the first 4 weeks.

[superpump]

Hey guys..
thanks alot for the quick responces. I figured that i should do a test only 1st cycle but i keep going back to the deca /dbol cycle in my mind b/c of the on-cycle sides of test. I can't get myself past that.
i have some 4ad transdermal from before the ban. Would that be of any use in a deca/dbol cycle?
Thanks again for the responces and the help
-Matt

[schico28]

And dont forget your PST!

[CapnZ]

And dont forget your PST!

That would be PCT. If you want to reduce /eliminate sides from test - try running 10 mg/ day nolvadex along with the test. It should help. I've toalked with at least 3 people who said it worked great.

And make sure you have proper PCT planned and in place before starting.

[longhorn814]

Hey guys..
thanks alot for the quick responces. I figured that i should do a test only 1st cycle but i keep going back to the deca /dbol cycle in my mind b/c of the on-cycle sides of test.
-Matt

how about the fact on deca/dbol you wont have any test in your body? I would say that will lead to way worse sides than any test will give you. I get very little sides from test, but everybody is different

[eGGz]

Hey guys..
thanks alot for the quick responces. I figured that i should do a test only 1st cycle but i keep going back to the deca /dbol cycle in my mind b/c of the on-cycle sides of test. I can't get myself past that.
i have some 4ad transdermal from before the ban. Would that be of any use in a deca/dbol cycle?
Thanks again for the responces and the help
-Matt

Test alone will most likely put your libido in overdrive. Deca alone can kill your libido and possibly make it difficult if not impossible to achieve or maintain an erection. Deca alone can also make for a more difficult recovery. Not all people have these symptoms but I'd say more do than don't. Why risk it?

IMO the sides of a deca alone cycle are greater than a solo test cycle. Like others have mentioned, the sides that some experience with test can usually be controlled. At a starter dose of 500mg EW the sides should be minimal.

[superpump]

Thanks again for the replies.
It makes sense to do what you all are saying. I think ill run 500mg test/week.
How does this look:
Test E 500mg/week (week 1-10)
Nolva 10mg/day (week 1-15)
Clomid (weeks 13-15) staggard down.

Should i do injections of the test E every 7 days or every 4?
Also, i am 6 foot, 23 yrs old, 6 yrs lifting, 190lbs, 6%BF. What kind of gains/results can i look foward to on a Test E only cycle?
Thanks again everyone

[Smak]

Why are you afraid of Test? Test is probably the safest steroid out there in moderate amounts for you to do. You will experience minimal to no side effects whatsover with 400-500 mg a week except for maybe a little acne and a constant hard on. Don't be a puss and throw some test in. If I could run my first cycle over again, I would run it like this. This makes more sense than just a dbol /deca cycle.

Dbol weeks 1-4 30 mg
Deca weeks 1-12 400 mg
Test Enanthate weeks 1-13 500 mg

[eGGz]

Should i do injections of the test E every 7 days or every 4?
Also, i am 6 foot, 23 yrs old, 6 yrs lifting, 190lbs, 6%BF. What kind of gains/results can i look foward to on a Test E only cycle?
Thanks again everyone

I prefer a injection protocol of every 3.5 days I.E. Monday morning/Thursday evening.

Your gains will depend on Diet, Training, Rest and proper PCT. People have made solid gains in the 10-20 pound range on similar cycles.

Good luck, stay safe

[Rebel Yell]

eGGz is on the money.

Dbol and Deca ..talk about bloat, your balls hibernating and your johnson comatosed !!!

[jinos]

Test all the way. Like eggz said, do every 3.5 days 250mg per shot. Let us know how it goes. Good luck and enjoy. And don't forget to aspirate cuz alot of people don't.

[superpump]

Hey
thanks again for all the help. My mind is made up. Test E all the way!
now i cant wait to start but i am going to take this month to get my sh*t in order and start sept 1st. Ill definately let everyone know how it goes.
As far as PCT goes, does Nolva 10mg/day (week 1-15)
Clomid (weeks 13-15) staggard down seem adequate?
Thanks

[eGGz]

As far as PCT goes, does Nolva 10mg/day (week 1-15)
Clomid (weeks 13-15) staggard down seem adequate?
Thanks

Cycle:
1-4 Dbol 30mg ED (optional)
1-10 Test E or C 500mg EW
1-12 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT:
13-16 Clomid 100mg ED (or tapered down if you prefer)
13-16 Nolva 20mg ED

[superpump]

Thanks eggz..
can't wait to start my cycle but i have one last question!
i have a 2 week supply of Mag-10 left (4-ad and 1-test) and i was thinking that instead of doing the dbol for 4 weeks, i would run the mag-10 for the first 2 with the test e.
Does this sound worth it?
Thanks guys

[man-g]

what where your results with prohormones ?

[silvernblack]

Cycle:
1-4 Dbol 30mg ED (optional)
1-10 Test E or C 500mg ED
1-12 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT:
13-16 Clomid 100mg ED (or tapered down if you prefer)
13-16 Nolva 20mg ED

isnt the test e 500mg per week instead of ed??

[superpump]

I always responded well to PH's. I did a 4 week nor-diol cycle while running Mag10 for the last 2 weeks and i put on about 10lbs. I also ran that while hitting a huge growth spurt but everytime i run mag-10, it usually gives me a solid 3-5lbs in 2 weeks. Strength shoots up quickly with the Mag-10.
I figure that for the first 2 weeks of the 10 week Test E cycly i'd run the mag 10 b/c i have it and figure it would be put to better use with test then by itself.
As far as the weekly injections, i assume that eggz meant 500mg/week. I am going to do as previously said 250mg monday morning and 250mg thursday night. Not sure when to expect to feel the Test E kick in but if anyone knows when to expect it, let me know!
Also, on that effectivness chart, Test E only has one star as far as "keeping gains". if i put on 10-15lbs while on cycle, should i expect to loose most of it?
Thanks everyone for the help

[eGGz]

isnt the test e 500mg per week instead of ed??

Yep, My Bad.
Previous post edited, thanks.

[eGGz]

Thanks eggz..
can't wait to start my cycle but i have one last question!
i have a 2 week supply of Mag-10 left (4-ad and 1-test) and i was thinking that instead of doing the dbol for 4 weeks, i would run the mag-10 for the first 2 with the test e.
Does this sound worth it?
Thanks guys

Sorry, can't help you with that one. I have no experience with Mag-10 perhaps someone can help you with your question.

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