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    First Cycle...what Do You Think?

    I'm a new member as of about 5 mins ago and I would like an opinion of what anyone thinks about doing a stack of D-bol and oral winnie with some deca thrown in at one point. Of coarse they will all be takin at th right time and dose, but i'm wondering if anyone has done this and what they think of it?
    A buddy of mine did it and he's just freakishly jacked.
    Thanks for reading

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    say goodbye your sexdrive....you need to run some sort of test and proper pct....and at what dosages are you gunna take it at?

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    What are your stats? I advice you to do alot more research before starting a cycle, search this board theres tons of information here!

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    probably take 30-40mg of d-bol and same for winnie
    why should i take a test?
    and i'll be taking nolvadex and clomid afterwards sexdrive will come back later...lol

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    Yeap you need to do your homework before you stick anything foreign into yourself. Running deca without test will leave you with limp dick. I also hope you have some PCT planned out, how old are you anyway?

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    My stats are 5'8 180lbs good size and strength, i think i have a good starting point for a cycle like this

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    So what would be a good combo for running d-bol? What should I use it with? If I do use winnie what would be the best time to do so? I have too many questions...lol

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    Thats a descent size for your height. Why not get some test and throw it in there mate?

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    All first cycles should look something like this, dbol weeks 1-4@30mg/day and test enanthate weeks 1-10@500mg/week with proper PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder
    Yeap you need to do your homework before you stick anything foreign into yourself. Running deca without test will leave you with limp dick.
    I would have to agree...
    Hell... i've spent months researching before i even planned a cycle...
    And the thing is.... i'm STILL learning...

    There's loads of information here... not to mention
    the guys on the board who have countless experiences to share...
    Do a lil more research and you'd be able to answer your own question
    whether or not the 'cycle' u mentioned is worth while!! Just IMHO

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    i know it will work with no question...its just a matter of getting the best results. I'm 21 and anything I do packs on size very easy. I just want good solid gains, I don't want to look fat and bloated. That's why i thought the winnie would be good after or during the dbol

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    How's this for a cycle?

    week of cycle Test. Cypionate 200mg/ml Anadrol 50mg/tab
    1 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day
    2 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day
    3 300 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    4 400 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    5 400 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    6 400 ml/week 3 tabs/day
    7 400 ml/week 3 tabs/day
    8 300 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    9 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day

    With the proper shit for coming off afterwards
    Lets get some opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by deburca101
    i know it will work with no question...its just a matter of getting the best results. I'm 21 and anything I do packs on size very easy. I just want good solid gains, I don't want to look fat and bloated. That's why i thought the winnie would be good after or during the dbol
    Firstly you really need to do some quality research. Read and research on this site then and only then think about putting a cycle together. Use the search button and read 'Hooker's' Steroid Profiles. All the information for you to research is here, just use it.

    Second, Dbol /Winny is an awful choice for a cycle. Dbol will make you put on mass and winny will cut you up. Choose to bulk or cut, not both. For a first cycle I'd suggest Test Enan or Test Cyp. You could jumpstart with some Dbol or Tbol for the first 4 weeks, (Dbol 30mg/ED OR Tbol 40mg/ED)

    wk 1-12 Test Enan/Cyp 350-500mg/wk (2x injections per week)
    wk 1-12 Nolva 10mg/ED

    PCT

    PCT should consist of:

    wk 1-2 Clomid 100mg/ED
    wk 2-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Creatine 5g/ED
    wk 1-4 Tribulas 4g/ED
    wk 1-4 L-Glutamine 10mg/ED

    MultiVitimins and 1000mg/ED Vit C should also be included with Omega-3's and a Zinc and Magnesium supplement.

    Make sure you increase your calories (eat clean) and also train hard. Rest is also a key ingredient (8-9 hours) and you'll maximize the chances of keeping your gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deburca101
    week of cycle Test. Cypionate 200mg/ml Anadrol 50mg/tab
    1 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day
    2 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day
    3 300 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    4 400 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    5 400 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    6 400 ml/week 3 tabs/day
    7 400 ml/week 3 tabs/day
    8 300 ml/week 2 tabs/day
    9 200 ml/week 1 tabs/day

    With the proper shit for coming off afterwards
    Lets get some opinion
    Don't pyramid your Cypionate. Keep it between 400-500 mg from start to finish. As for the a-bombs they're pretty harsh and I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner. However if you're going to do them keep it between 50-100 mg everyday for three weeks. 3 tabs/150 mg is pushing it unless you're an experienced user/bodybuilder. Also use milk thistle at 1000 mg a day.

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    Hey, guy i'm just new to this and was wondering if anyone here could help me out. From reading all the forums it seems like you guys know what your talkin about. I'm interested in doing a cycle - my first 1 - I have access to Anadrol , D-bol, Primo....I read in all the forms that you guys recommend test? any info on that?

    My stats are:

    5'11
    153 Lbs.
    Lanky
    Been working out for a about a year

    Could someone please drop some info for me.....i'm looking to get to about 175ish.....thanks a lot for readin this guys much respected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhillon86
    Hey, guy i'm just new to this and was wondering if anyone here could help me out. From reading all the forums it seems like you guys know what your talkin about. I'm interested in doing a cycle - my first 1 - I have access to Anadrol , D-bol, Primo....I read in all the forms that you guys recommend test? any info on that?

    My stats are:

    5'11
    153 Lbs.
    Lanky
    Been working out for a about a year

    Could someone please drop some info for me.....i'm looking to get to about 175ish.....thanks a lot for readin this guys much respected!
    Thread hijacker!

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    Use this thread for your advice, no need to create the same ones over and over and over again.

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    man... you guys should do months of research FIRST, then post some Q's to help modify your results......

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    To both newbs on here..."I've been working out a year"...no AAS(roids!) then! Dont do 2 orals in 1 cycle and DECA ..especially when its your first cycle..
    read up. Test needs to be the first compound used so you know how you react to sides. A Test ONLY cycle would be beneficial when you are at the point to be using AAS

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    GAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! 21 YO! Don't juice yet! What I wouldn't give to have the natural test that I had at that age! Why waste it?



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