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    Thumbs up First Cycle-Deca300/Sus350-Critique

    This will be my first cycle and I plan on making it a perfectly structured one at that.

    As of now I have:
    1 10mL Vial of 350mg Sustanon made by EuroLINE
    1 10mL Vial of 300mg Deca made by EuroLINE
    20 20mg Pills of Nolvadex
    30 10mg Pills of Clenbuteral

    I can always get more but wouldnt mind saving some money!

    I am going to be using sryinges w/ 22gauge 1.5in.

    I will be on a 14 week cycle going like this:

    1-12 Deca 400mg week shoot 200mg on Mondays and Thursdays
    1-14 Sust 600mg week 175mg shoot EOD

    PCT:

    Day of last Sust injection, HCG shot
    1-4 20mg a day of Nolva
    1-6 20mg a day of Clen

    My Diet is going to be very strict with:
    8 Meals a day with 420g of Protein, 250g of Carbs, 85g of Fat = 3500 Calories

    I am 6' tall and 220lbs. so this diet is very suiting as far as I know...

    I also have a very planned workout routine set up for the entire cycle with an hour of intense cardio in the morning and an hour of intense lifting in the afternoon

    This is where the questions come in...
    I currently dont have access to Clomid... would I be risking a lot if I were not to use it?
    Should I take the Nolva during the cycle or after like I had planned?
    I have read that Clen helps keep most of the muscle after you are done with the cycle... is this true in most cases?
    Any other things I should consider in general?

    Thanks for the help!
    Last edited by BigBadDurden; 08-07-2005 at 11:20 PM.

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    I would pass on the deca for your first cycle. As far as your sust dosage, you might want to adjust it since it wouldnt be to easy to get 150mg per shot if it is 350mg per cc as you mentioned.

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    because of the clen comment at the end i am telling you to wait a little longer and do some more reading up(learning) before you start. good luck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharky
    because of the clen comment at the end i am telling you to wait a little longer and do some more reading up(learning) before you start. good luck bro
    Why was my clen comment completely wrong? That is what I have come to read... then again it from the internet so it could be dead wrong... oh and I was thinking about just with the Sustanon alone because I have seen so many people say for a first timer thats all you should really use... I am considering it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ejuicer
    I would pass on the deca for your first cycle. As far as your sust dosage, you might want to adjust it since it wouldnt be to easy to get 150mg per shot if it is 350mg per cc as you mentioned.
    Yea I messed up and put 150 when I meant to put 175... BTW have you ever heard of EuroLINE Laboratories?

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    Never heard of them... You previously mentioned that your sust dose would be 500 per week. 175 eod would actually be 612.5 a week, not that it matter, just pointing it out.

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    Well if you looked up at the first post I did an edit and changed it from 500mg to 600mg... speaking of that... would you consider that to be a relitivley high dosage?

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    A little on the high side... but that would probably be the easiest way to measure since you have 350 instead of the normal 250.

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    Yea thats what I thought... any advice on the PCT subject? Sound good to you?

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