A six pack a day keeps the doctor away?

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 05:39 PM

OK obviously chugging shots every night is hard on the liver, and adding orals to the mix ... well, nuf said. But is casual drinking really bad on the cycles? O7

**rager** · 08-08-2005, 05:59 PM

I drink sometimes on cycle, make sure you are taking your ALA, Milk thistle and keep it to a minimum... DRINK ON !!!!!!!

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 06:00 PM

I hear ya on the Milk Thistle ... but what's ALA?

**SwoleCat** · 08-08-2005, 06:01 PM

Why anyone would drink on cycle to add stress to the body/liver, I've no idea. As well, it sure isn't going to help your look any nor muscle gain or fat loss.

~SC~

**Seattle Junk** · 08-08-2005, 06:05 PM

I know a guy that bragged to me about drinking while on drol. I thought he was joking but he was serious. That is crazy and wreckless. I see your kidneys and liver are working at full speed trying to detoxify 50mgs of drol then drinking on top of that. Maybe piss some blood or get that yellow tint in your skin from jaundice....ughhhhh.... Not fun sides.

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Why anyone would drink on cycle to add stress to the body/liver, I've no idea. As well, it sure isn't going to help your look any nor muscle gain or fat loss.

~SC~

If you are not competing and you enjoy the liesure why not?

**Seattle Junk** · 08-08-2005, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Oceans7

If you are not competing and you enjoy the liesure why not?

Do you enjoy having a healthy liver? I would do injectables only if you have a heavy social schedule that requires drinking.

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

I know a guy that bragged to me about drinking while on drol. I thought he was joking but he was serious. That is crazy and wreckless. I see your kidneys and liver are working at full speed trying to detoxify 50mgs of drol then drinking on top of that. Maybe piss some blood or get that yellow tint in your skin from jaundice....ughhhhh.... Not fun sides.

Yep, gotta agree with you 100% if you are on orals ... that's crazy! But what if you are on a moderate Enth/Eq cycle?

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Do you enjoy having a healthy liver? I would do injectables only if you have a heavy social schedule that requires drinking.

yep, definately want a healthy liver. I have blood tests run every 2 months, and if anything look out of place I make amends to address it. so far so good.

**SwoleCat** · 08-08-2005, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Oceans7

If you are not competing and you enjoy the liesure why not?

Hey, do as you wish, I simply stated my opinion on the matter. May want to read it again as I listed reasons. Just because one isn't competing doesn't mean one wouldn't want to lose excess fat and gain lean mass and screw up the ability to do this because of alcohol.

~SC~

**Seattle Junk** · 08-08-2005, 06:23 PM

Damn Swole has 16K posts....that's crazy....hehe

**Oceans7** · 08-08-2005, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Hey, do as you wish, I simply stated my opinion on the matter. May want to read it again as I listed reasons. Just because one isn't competing doesn't mean one wouldn't want to lose excess fat and gain lean mass and screw up the ability to do this because of alcohol.

~SC~

Gotcha ... THAT's what I was wondering. If it inhibits lean mass growth and adds fat ... nuf said. THX Bro

**SplinterCell** · 08-08-2005, 06:24 PM

Drinking on cycle is like running a marathon, except that for every four strides you take forward you take one back, then you punch yourself in the face and do the hokey-pokey before taking another four strides.

**rager** · 08-08-2005, 06:39 PM

ALA Is Alpha lipoic acid. Obviously drinking on cycle isn't the best idea, but some people still like to have a life and actually mingle with people. It isn't going to kill you and I dont give a Sht who on this board says it will !!!!!!!!

**SplinterCell** · 08-08-2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by rager

ALA Is Alpha lipoic acid. Obviously drinking on cycle isn't the best idea, but some people still like to have a life and actually mingle with people. It isn't going to kill you and I dont give a Sht who on this board says it will !!!!!!!!

Actually heavy drinking on cycle "could" lead to death.
You dont need to drink to be able to mingle and have fun.
Exclamation marks at the end of a sentence should not be overused.

**rager** · 08-08-2005, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by SplinterCell

Actually heavy drinking on cycle "could" lead to death.
You dont need to drink to be able to mingle and have fun.
Exclamation marks at the end of a sentence should not be overused.

I didn't say one word about heavy drinking? and some people like to actually go out like humans to know and than !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love Exclamation marks

**rager** · 08-08-2005, 07:21 PM

Little typo there Now and than

night all ....

**Seattle Junk** · 08-09-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Oceans7

Yep, gotta agree with you 100% if you are on orals ... that's crazy! But what if you are on a moderate Enth/Eq cycle?

I would say you could get away with one night of moderate drinking a week on injectables, not orals. If you are at a point in your life where you are drinking a lot, get off juice. When summer is over, hit it hard and don't drink. You'll get much better results. You are wasting money if you are partying and juicing.

**Ntpadude** · 08-09-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by rager

I drink sometimes on cycle, make sure you are taking your ALA, Milk thistle and keep it to a minimum... DRINK ON !!!!!!!

Actually there is a study about Milk thistle. HRT doctors strongly suggest their patients NOT take milk thistle because it causes a very big increase in SHBG production which essentially deactivates testosterone and near testosterone hormones. Add to it alcohol which turns the remaining free testosterone into estrogen and the combination essentially ruins your cycle.

**ludakris9** · 08-09-2005, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by SplinterCell

Drinking on cycle is like running a marathon, except that for every four strides you take forward you take one back, then you punch yourself in the face and do the hokey-pokey before taking another four strides.

Great post I agree!!!

**smiler** · 08-09-2005, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Actually there is a study about Milk thistle. HRT doctors strongly suggest their patients NOT take milk thistle because it causes a very big increase in SHBG production which essentially deactivates testosterone and near testosterone hormones. Add to it alcohol which turns the remaining free testosterone into estrogen and the combination essentially ruins your cycle.

what is SHBG?

**rager** · 08-09-2005, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Actually there is a study about Milk thistle. HRT doctors strongly suggest their patients NOT take milk thistle because it causes a very big increase in SHBG production which essentially deactivates testosterone and near testosterone hormones. Add to it alcohol which turns the remaining free testosterone into estrogen and the combination essentially ruins your cycle.

Well that is interesting, I certainly have never heard that? Thats why we are on this board ... Thanks. Now what about SHBG with ALA?