Bash my cycle!!

[Live4thePump]

Hey guys, i wanted to know what you think about this cycle i'm bout to start. I've gotten a lot cycles under my belt but wanted something to add a huge amount of mass. Tell me what you think.

18 weeker
Test enanthate - 800mg/week - week 1 through 16
Deca - 800mg/week - week 1 through 14
Test prop- 100mg/day - week 1 through 4 and week 17 and 18
Dbol - 50mg/day - week 1 through 4
Tren - 75mg/day - week 10 through 16
winny - 100mg/day - week 12 through 18

plus 4 weeks of intense pct....maybe some hcg to help out recovery too.

so what you guys think? overdoing it? I've used all these compounds in previous cycles, but never together like this or in such high doses. Flame away please!

[RA]

Hey guys, i wanted to know what you think about this cycle i'm bout to start. I've gotten a lot cycles under my belt but wanted something to add a huge amount of mass. Tell me what you think.

18 weeker
Test enanthate - 800mg/week - week 1 through 16
Deca - 800mg/week - week 1 through 14
Test prop- 100mg/day - week 1 through 4 and week 17 and 18
Dbol - 50mg/day - week 1 through 4
Tren - 75mg/day - week 10 through 16
winny - 100mg/day - week 12 through 18

plus 4 weeks of intense pct....maybe some hcg to help out recovery too.

so what you guys think? overdoing it? I've used all these compounds in previous cycles, but never together like this or in such high doses. Flame away please!

Test e and deca doses too close.(deca dick) Why kickstart with prop and dbol. Pick one. I would run the winny right up until the day before pct.

[Swifto]

Your cycle is over 15 weeks so I advise incorperating some HCG into that cycle to help with testicular atrophy and as an aid in recovery leading up to PCT.

I think you should either choose Prop or Dbol for the first 4 weeks. For mass Dbol, for lean gains Prop. Keep the Prop, though, at the end of your cycle leading up to PCT. Personally I'd run it for the last 3-4 weeks not 2 weeks.

My main concernt about your cycle is that it includes 2 progestins, Deca and Tren . This isnt advised at all due to there ability to shut one's HPTA down fairly hard. Choose one or the other. Not both. I hope also you have included neccessary ancillaries to combat estrogen/progesterone related gyno?

Id go with something like this:

wk 1-18 Test Enan 800mg/wk
wk 1-16 Deca 600mg/wk
wk 1-4 Dbol 50mg/ED
wk 14-18 Prop 100mg/ED
wk 14-18 Winny 100mg/ED

Also add in HCG and carry out correct PCT.

[Booz]

you dont need the prop and dbol to start you off id just use the prop,also either drop the deca to 6-700mg or up the test,you should always run more test than deca if youv run loads of cycles you should know this mate,no flame.i would run the tren through to week 18 and stop it with the prop,carry on with the winny 3 days past prop n tren then start pct.let us know how it goes.

[Swifto]

Too add Tren . Run for 6 weeks minimum.

wk 1-6 Tren 75mg/ED.

[8-MAN]

i would run the tren longer

[Live4thePump]

Hmm...all very good advice. I thought jumpstarting with prop and dbol might be a little excessive. good point on the progestins swifto. Believe me, I'm stocked up on anti-e's and such. It's like a little pharmacy over here...haha. I will definitely throw in some HCG . I'm not worried about PCT too much. I'm super detailed and stay on schedule when it comes to proper PCT.

[Live4thePump]

I might have to drop the tren then, god knows i love it though

[Live4thePump]

I've ran equal amounts of test and deca in the past and felt great. no sides. I'll take your advice and lower it though, especially if i include tren .

[Swifto]

Even running 800mg/wk Test it will be dificult to predict wether your soldier will stand to attenttion running 2 very suppressive compounds. Deca is already extremely suppressive. 100mg shot of Deca will shut down the HPTA for 2-3 weeks before it returns to basline. Tren being 5x more suppressive, I think your severly going to affect your chances of recovery post cycle. Thus making your gains harder to attain.

[Live4thePump]

Point taken. I'll probably just drop the tren . All great advice though.

[Swifto]

Point taken. I'll probably just drop the tren . All great advice though.

[Booz]

maybe swap the tren for eq?

[Live4thePump]

I used EQ a little while back and didn't get too much gains from it. I think deca is much better for me.

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

You're using too much gear. Cut way the **** back.

[Samson7]

You're using too much gear. Cut way the **** back.

Gotta agree with you there...can you imagine how many cc's per injection. Ouch

[Live4thePump]

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