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    Question Cycle critique for a friend on HRT

    A friend of mine is on HRT which consists of 1 shot Test Cyp EW.

    He has severial pre HRT cycles under his belt. (test, deca EQ, dbol etc.)

    We laid out this cycle for him.

    1-4 Drol 100mg ED
    1-12 Test E 1000mg EW
    1-12 Tren E 400mg EW
    10-15 Var 60mg ED
    13- back on HRT
    Nolva 10mg ED
    Anastrozole .25mg ED
    HCG on hand in case of shrinkage

    It is his first run with tren.

    What should he do for PCT?
    Is it even an issue because he is jumping right back on HRT?
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    if its his first run with tren 12 weeks is too long IMO.
    as for pct he wont need to run it since he will be jumping right back onto HRT

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    if its his first run with tren 12 weeks is too long IMO.
    Yeah, Tren E to boot. He wanted the enanthate because he has already been jabbing himself once a week for 2 years and didn't want to do the ED or EOD thing. He says he rarely suffers any sides from what he has tried. However Tren is a whole different animal.

    Then there was the 2 250mg 10ml vials = 5000mg divided by 400mg EW = 12.5 weeks with none left over aspect.

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    IMO, 100mg is very harsh on the liver and overkill. 50 is plenty and believe me, does plenty of damage. Took 7 years for my liver numbers to get back to normal. but hey, thats just me.

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    If I am reading this correctly, you are saying it took 7 years for your liver values to get back to normal following a course of 50mg drol ED.

    Holy Crap!

    How many weeks are we talking?

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    The question we need to ask is how many cycles has your friend run? 1000mg of Test is a bit much and like guys have said, running Tren for 12 weeks for the first time is to much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    A friend of mine is on HRT which consists of 1 shot Test Cyp EW.

    He has severial pre HRT cycles under his belt. (test, deca EQ, dbol etc.)

    We laid out this cycle for him.

    1-4 Drol 100mg ED
    1-12 Test E 1000mg EW
    1-12 Tren E 400mg EW
    10-15 Var 60mg ED
    13- back on HRT
    Nolva 10mg ED
    Anastrozole .25mg ED
    HCG on hand in case of shrinkage

    It is his first run with tren.

    What should he do for PCT?
    Is it even an issue because he is jumping right back on HRT?
    1. i would lower the dose on the drol 50mg day

    2. first time on tren i would run it 10 weeks.

    3. as for pct i would do nolv 20mg day clomid and trib with his hrt

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    Thanks buylongterm, I believe this is his 5th or 6th cycle. Because he won't be doing the cyp (HRT) during this cycle, we figured the test dosage by subtracting the 250mg of cyp EW. 1000mg - 250mg = 750mg EW.

    None of this proposed cycle is carved in granite. Based on everyone's suggestions so far, it sounds like 10 weeks of Tren E @ 400mg EW would be a better choice.

    Thank you for your advice.

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    Hrt??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-dog
    Hrt??????
    Hormone Replacement Therapy

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    1. i would lower the dose on the drol 50mg day

    2. first time on tren i would run it 10 weeks.

    3. as for pct i would do nolv 20mg day clomid and trib with his hrt
    Thanks gsxxr, This guy only weighs 200lbs but he is ripped to the bone. I have never seen anyone with as low a bodyfat percentage short of a bodybuilding competition. He has ran dbol @ 50mg ED but never drol. I was unsure if 50mg drol would be enough. I guess he could run 50mg for a week or so to see how it goes. He monitors his blood pressure ED.

    I've gotten mixed reviews regarding PCT. Some say with HRT it is not necessary. I don't see where it could really hurt to do as you suggest.

    Thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    Thanks buylongterm, I believe this is his 5th or 6th cycle. Because he won't be doing the cyp (HRT) during this cycle, we figured the test dosage by subtracting the 250mg of cyp EW. 1000mg - 250mg = 750mg EW.

    None of this proposed cycle is carved in granite. Based on everyone's suggestions so far, it sounds like 10 weeks of Tren E @ 400mg EW would be a better choice.

    Thank you for your advice.
    Anytime bro!! That's why we are all here. To help each other out!!!

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    Talked to my bro today and we revised his cycle based on everyone's input and scaled most everything down considerably. Here's the scaled down version:

    1-4 Drol 50mg ED
    1-12 Test E 600mg EW
    1-10 Tren E 300mg EW
    9-14 Var 60mg ED

    Thanks in advance for any critiques, suggestions etc.

    ~eGGz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    Talked to my bro today and we revised his cycle based on everyone's input and scaled most everything down considerably. Here's the scaled down version:

    1-4 Drol 50mg ED
    1-12 Test E 600mg EW
    1-10 Tren E 300mg EW
    9-14 Var 60mg ED

    Thanks in advance for any critiques, suggestions etc.

    ~eGGz~
    the length is good on the tren but he needs to up the dose a little bit. id say 400mg/week IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    the length is good on the tren but he needs to up the dose a little bit. id say 400mg/week IMO
    Thanks for the advice w_rballs,

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