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    Can some counterfeit tabs give the same results as real ones?

    Can some Counterfeit tabs give:
    increased muscle mass
    increased strength
    water retention, Etc.?

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    He he, you talking about the placebo effect?

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    If its bunk, its bunk. It will not give you any benefits, except for maybe a small placebo effect.

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    what do you guys mean by a placobo effect?

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    coun·ter·feit ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kountr-ft)
    v. coun·ter·feit·ed, coun·ter·feit·ing, coun·ter·feits
    v. tr.
    To make a copy of, usually with the intent to defraud; forge: counterfeits money.
    To make a pretense of; feign: counterfeited interest in the story.

    v. intr.
    To carry on a deception; dissemble.
    To make fraudulent copies of something valuable.

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    I heard there are counterfiets that are not the real thing and are bad for you but will give the same results while poisoning your insides.
    Just curious. I'll see if I can find the link

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    Sorry counterfeited tabs.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid Rage
    what do you guys mean by a placobo effect?
    "The placebo effect is the phenomenon that a patient's symptoms can be alleviated by an otherwise ineffective treatment, apparently because the individual expects or believes that it will work."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid Rage
    what do you guys mean by a placobo effect?
    In studies scientists have two groups of people (well three for the standard but...) Let's say that these scientists are working on a headache medicine. They take two groups of headache sufferers, and tell them they are giving them their new drug. Only half the people get sugar pills which obviously don't heal headaches. These are called the placebo. Often these headache sufferers who take the placebo will report that the drug worked and cured their headache.

    So a placebo is a false-positive response to something that has actually had no effect on you. In essence, it's all in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
    Sorry counterfeited tabs.............
    It really depends on what they are. Counterfeit is simply fake. Perhaps I'd buy some counterfeit dbol which turn out to be potassium cyanide. Then I'm dead. But if they turn out to be advil, chances are no problems for me. see the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    It really depends on what they are. Counterfeit is simply fake. Perhaps I'd buy some counterfeit dbol which turn out to be potassium cyanide. Then I'm dead. But if they turn out to be advil, chances are no problems for me. see the point?
    Gotcha. Thanks

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    thought so... cool thanks boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    In studies scientists have two groups of people (well three for the standard but...) Let's say that these scientists are working on a headache medicine. They take two groups of headache sufferers, and tell them they are giving them their new drug. Only half the people get sugar pills which obviously don't heal headaches. These are called the placebo. Often these headache sufferers who take the placebo will report that the drug worked and cured their headache.

    So a placebo is a false-positive response to something that has actually had no effect on you. In essence, it's all in your head.
    i remember reading something about medics during the war in vietnam. when they ran out of morphene they gave the patients sugar pills or asprin and told them it was for pain. i dont really remember the whole story but in some cases, it was reported, it worked quite well. i wonder if that is really true.

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    does he mean generic, not counterfit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyShotty
    Can some Counterfeit tabs give:
    increased muscle mass
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    water retention, Etc.?
    most counterfeits will do nothing positive

    and quite a few will give you an abcess on the injection site, inflamed skin, infections, etc!

    i read somewhere around the boads that someone had injected a fake substance, got it tested and guess what it was?

    PICKLE JUICE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward065
    most counterfeits will do nothing positive

    and quite a few will give you an abcess on the injection site, inflamed skin, infections, etc!

    i read somewhere around the boads that someone had injected a fake substance, got it tested and guess what it was?

    PICKLE JUICE!
    one member here long ago had some terrible luck with armor-all back in the day...scary shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by 956Vette
    one member here long ago had some terrible luck with armor-all back in the day...scary shit
    Yep..Thought it was winny. Fcked him up bad if it's the same guy.

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