Thread: Where to inject Deca
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08-10-2005, 08:01 AM #1New Member
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Where to inject Deca
Where does one inject Deca ? How much per inejction? What size needle is best? Other suggestions...Please!
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08-10-2005, 08:05 AM #2Junior Member
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I believe a 22 guage needle by 1 1/2 inch long. and I think the you should shoot 1 cc every other day, and glute is the best place to inject. Good luck
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08-10-2005, 08:07 AM #3
HOW TO INJECT YOURSELF AND NOT LOSE YOUR LUNCH
By Dr. David T. Ryan
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http://www.t-nation.com
We decided to print this article for the safety of all athletes that choose to use anabolics. We do not condone the use of AAS, especially with young athletes and teenagers. But we do realize that there are people that do use them and wish to give them some information on how to inject properly. If you have any moral or any other objections of the use of AAS, the please do not read the article. This is your choice as is the choice of those that use AAS. We have also decided to print this article as Dr. Ryan has had numerous obstacles in getting this published. We felt that this subject needed to be addressed.]
This whole article started with a shocking conversation I was having with a twenty year friend of mine and lifter. He was explaining about the procedure he would use to inject himself. The process of using an old/used needle to remove the solution from the bottle then applying a new ?fresh? needle to his syringe was rather shocking to me. He smiled and indicated that boastfully that he had done this for over twenty years. All I could think about were the large fibrotic lesions in his glutes that prevented him from further injection in those sites.
All too commonly the issues that are important are often never discussed by professionals until it is too late. This problem with that type of injection protocol is that you are taking a needle out of your dirty body (do you eat off of your ass?) and apply that needle, for the sake of keeping a sharp point, into a solution, just happy to grow the bacteria that is lodged in the needle and on it?s surface. Consider this, would you stick that needle into a bucket of paint then later shove that needle into your fresh bottle of EQ 200? Please consider that over the years of working medical research; I have seen bacteria grow in acid so strong you would have to open the chemical under a hood or burn your eyes and nose off ? it just takes time! NEVER STICK A NEEDLE FROM YOUR BODY BACK INTO ANYTHING THAT IS STERILE.
THESE ARE THE BASIC SAFE STEPS IN INJECTION:
1. Wash your hands and anyone else involved should wash their hands. 2. Use only clean needles to remove and inject any solution. 3. Prepare the area with a prep solution (i.e. rubbing alcohol or other sterilizer) 4. LEARN TO Z TRACK (listed below) 5. Never inject more than 5 cc?s / ml. into any one injection site. 6. Keep all items clean and dry after the injection. 7. Store all items properly.
Washing your hands may seem simple, but it is a very effective way to prevent the spread of germs and viruses.
Using a contaminated needle to remove solution from a bottle is playing Russian roulette with your health. Only use clean needles to puncture your skin or that of bottle. A single injection doesn?t dull the needle tip to any degree worth complaining about. It only helps in your head, maybe! Various prep solutions are necessary to clean the injection site; this prevents the normal bacteria that are present on the surface of the skin from being pushed into the body.
Z Tracking
This is a simple process of pulling the skin to one side to allow for a hole to be made in the skin and then displacing that same hole after the injection has been made. This displacement stops the leakage of the injected solution to the skin surface.
Wash your hands and make sure that everyone else does too.
Prepare the area with alcohol.
Prepare the injection needle and solution
Firmly displace the skin to one side.
Inject the needle and aspirate to make sure you have no blood and then inject contents appropriately.
Release the skin pressure.
Remove the needle from the injection point.
Clean and dispose of all materials appropriately.
Taken from the nurses hand book (referenced below), notice how the displaced skin will stop the backflow of the injected solution.
For those of you who would like a diagram: Click Here
Follow these easy steps to providing a safer more effective injection. Common sense goes a long way in medicine and yes, this is still a form of medicine.
also check this out...
http://www.breastcancerprofessional....nc/nursing.pdf
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Originally Posted by gym-rat
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08-10-2005, 08:09 AM #5Originally Posted by maxxmuscle
Or both
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08-10-2005, 08:16 AM #6Junior Member
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Just trying to help the guy out and as far as I know all the info. I gave him is correct. I wish that I could meet some of you guys in person
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08-10-2005, 08:24 AM #7New Member
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No test. I do not have a steady source and it has taken me some time to acquire the Deca . This is my first time using gear.
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Originally Posted by maxxmuscle
not for nothing you have no clue.
1. you dont know what his deca dose is. how are you going to tell him to shoot 1cc eod.
2. deca only needs to be shoot 2x a week.
3 you do not need a 22g needle to shoot deca 23 or 25g will work.
4. 1.5in needle is only for the glute. what if he was going to shoot his delt.
5. did you even prob to see what his cycle is does he have test. if not dose he know the sides of deca only.
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Originally Posted by gym-rat
deca only is not a good cycle. all cycle should have test as a base. if you do a search for first cycle you will find a test only cycle is best. you will have to spend some time looking it pct as well.
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08-10-2005, 08:32 AM #10Junior Member
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stop
Some guys here might jump on you. But you need to plan a proper pct deca is tough alone you should read more on this site and others to educate yourself more. I made the same mistake you did and the advice I weas given is STOP. I'm glad I did. There are some very educated guys on this board and you should hear them out even if they come across the wrong way. Read more on this board first before you do it trust me on that one.
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08-10-2005, 08:33 AM #11Member
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Originally Posted by gym-rat
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08-10-2005, 09:36 AM #12Senior Member
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DO NOT start a deca only cycle! The first cycle is going to produce the best gains so you should do alot more research and consider one of the many novice stacks. A deca only cycle hinder gains if you want to use it in the near future.
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08-10-2005, 09:44 AM #13
do more research before doing anything. From the sounds of it, you have much to learn. You have plenty of time to get big. Its better to do it correctly than to do it wrong and fu(k up your body. Like these other guys said, you need test in every cycle, especially with deca . Do you know why? Do you know what PCT is? Do you know how steroids affect your hormones in your body? These are things you need to know. Not to mention diet and training are the most important aspects of putting on muscle.
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