Best AAS for strenght, while not to much size?

**transform** · 08-12-2005, 09:45 AM

I was wondreing, from your experience or personal know-how, whats the best steroid for providing great strenght but, not too much size? I have a mate who wants strenght, but not to much mass because he plays rugby and is worried if he suddenly gets huge theyll be suspicious.

**DEVLDOG** · 08-12-2005, 09:46 AM

sorry,they go hand in hand...best strength IMO is anadrol and test suspension..you will blow up on these.

**MatrixGuy** · 08-12-2005, 09:48 AM

Var, test prop, tren .

**Spyder** · 08-12-2005, 09:49 AM

They do go hand in hand like DEVLDOG said, i personally would do some test and run nolva throughout the cycle to reduce bloat as much as possible

**Spyder** · 08-12-2005, 09:50 AM

After all the bloat is what gives you the buff look throughout your cycle, and it builds up very quickly too.

**transform** · 08-12-2005, 09:56 AM

Thanks. Would using nolva or arimidex or proviron or some combo of things on cycle help reduce bloat?Hes a big fella, 5'9" , 242pounds, so should he go with higher doses of the nolva, a'dex and proviron?

***G-1000*** · 08-12-2005, 10:24 AM

vare with test prop will going to nice strenght

**Liftgod84** · 08-12-2005, 10:27 AM

I would use 'var, tren , and prop. . .

***G-1000*** · 08-12-2005, 10:28 AM

guys he is not looking for much size. if you run tren the bigest side from it is size.

**Wrestlingkompressor** · 08-12-2005, 10:43 AM

Doing a ton of research on this very subject, gaining strength while keeping weight gain to a minimum is important for athletes in certain weight classes. Var and Tren seem to be the popular combo, however like the others said you'd need a test base to run with them.How much weight you would gain on cycle would be more dependent on your diet than juice. Also your type of workout plays a factor, what style do you train for...bodybuilding or powerlifting?

**redcell** · 08-12-2005, 10:46 AM

Halotestin will provide a big strength increase without much of a size increase. But it is very liver toxic.

**Seattle Junk** · 08-12-2005, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Wrestlingkompressor

Doing a ton of research on this very subject, gaining strength while keeping weight gain to a minimum is important for athletes in certain weight classes. Var and Tren seem to be the popular combo, however like the others said you'd need a test base to run with them.How much weight you would gain on cycle would be more dependent on your diet than juice. Also your type of workout plays a factor, what style do you train for...bodybuilding or powerlifting?

Hence Winny V ala Palmerio, Ben Johnson, etc.....

**Squatman51** · 08-12-2005, 12:50 PM

var and test suspension for strength...you will however gain some size

**DEVLDOG** · 08-12-2005, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Hence Winny V ala Palmerio, Ben Johnson, etc.....

ben johnson wasnt training for a power sport.he was going for speed..like a racehorse.im sure he was on GH also to get as shredded as he was.

all steroids are a dirivitive of testosterone and are all capable of putting on size.the end results depend on how you eat and train.

**armwrestler22** · 08-12-2005, 02:17 PM

halo = best strength, huge aggressiveness, increased endurance, makes me want to kill evryone, but as said above its prolly the harshest on yur liver, so dont drink on it an take milk thistle, and go really low dose prop like 75-100mg eod for 8 weeks and run halo 30mg a day for 4-6 weeks, gain like 5-8 solid ass pounds, and just tell eryone ur one creatine and u'll be golden. read up though mang.

**eGGz** · 08-12-2005, 05:04 PM

Anavar made me ridiculously strong. I'd do a set that was close to my max and it would feel difficult. Then I'd put 20 more pounds on and it would feel difficult but I could still get my reps, Then I'd put 20 more pounds on and it would feel difficult but I could still get my reps, at which point I would get scared of hurting myself and back way off on the weight.

Granted I was on test and tren too but the strength didn't get ridiculous until I added the var.

**G-13** · 08-12-2005, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by eGGz

Anavar made me ridiculously strong. I'd do a set that was close to my max and it would feel difficult. Then I'd put 20 more pounds on and it would feel difficult but I could still get my reps, Then I'd put 20 more pounds on and it would feel difficult but I could still get my reps, at which point I would get scared of hurting myself and back way off on the weight.

Granted I was on test and tren too but the strength didn't get ridiculous until I added the var.

did you keep the strength from that cycle>? if so how much?

**eGGz** · 08-12-2005, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by G-13

did you keep the strength from that cycle>? if so how much?

I kept some size and some strength too. Upon cessation of the var I lost a good percentage of the strength but not all. I'm planning on running some var again next year 60-80mg ED as it was a great ride.

**symatech** · 08-12-2005, 05:40 PM

halo or var

**Sepsis** · 08-12-2005, 06:17 PM

if you want to avoid all these illegal aas, get some superdrol. i am on day 19 of my superdrol cycle and my bench has gone up 40lbs.(305-345lbs). i have meanwhile gained only 7 pounds (195-202) and i dont look bloated or anything. this stuff with a decent diet will definatelly give you noticeable strength gains. just my .02 and dont bash me about superdrol not being an aas - works just fine for me!