naturally growing to be arnold's size

**jgg1221** · 08-12-2005, 12:02 PM

does anyone of you knowledgable guru's think its possible to grow to be Arnold's size (or even atleast have 20inch arms) which average genetics, consistently good training and consistently good dieting?

or is it just generally not possible (for someone of average genetics) for someone to grow that much without the steroids ??

**Smak** · 08-12-2005, 12:11 PM

Not without steroids .

**promiscio** · 08-12-2005, 12:13 PM

Nope... not without great genetics, not even sure that is enough...

**jgg1221** · 08-12-2005, 12:14 PM

not even 19-20inch arms?

**Rob** · 08-12-2005, 12:26 PM

possible with great genetics

**Smak** · 08-12-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

not even 19-20inch arms?

Someone can get 19-20 inch arms, but that doesn't mean he's going to look or have a body like Arnold. I know many people with 19-20 inch arms, but all of them have touched AAS at least once and some of them are naturally big or fat. You can get 19-20 inch arms naturally but it's going to take a much longer time. So to sum it up again, you can get 19-20 inch arms without taking steroids , but you can't get a body like Arnold's without using them.

**Dally** · 08-12-2005, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

does anyone of you knowledgable guru's think its possible to grow to be Arnold's size (or even atleast have 20inch arms) which average genetics, consistently good training and consistently good dieting?

or is it just generally not possible (for someone of average genetics) for someone to grow that much without the steroids??

sounds like you currently have a small to average/small penus....sorry to hear that.

to answer your question ...yes it is possible.

**jgg1221** · 08-12-2005, 12:34 PM

ive done a few cycles, but im gonna try to stay natural... (granted i can resist the temptation)

i think its possible to get to 20in arms with average genetics granted your training routine is good and so is your diet... and your doing plenty of dead lifts and squats

**Dally** · 08-12-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

ive done a few cycles, but im gonna try to stay natural... (granted i can resist the temptation)

i think its possible to get to 20in arms with average genetics granted your training routine is good and so is your diet... and your doing plenty of dead lifts and squats

your right .... its very possible... it will take longer, but thats the answer to the question.

there is alot of natural athletes that have a very respectable physic and have never done juice....one dude comes to mind...fuk...cant think of the name...strong as SHITT

im'a try to look em up

**promiscio** · 08-12-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

ive done a few cycles, but im gonna try to stay natural... (granted i can resist the temptation)

i think its possible to get to 20in arms with average genetics granted your training routine is good and so is your diet... and your doing plenty of dead lifts and squats

You might get the size, but not the physique...

**smiler** · 08-12-2005, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

sounds like you currently have a small to average/small penus....sorry to hear that.

to answer your question ...yes it is possible.

very nice...wtf is a penus? do you have one? hmmm

**Squatman51** · 08-12-2005, 12:47 PM

that would be pretty tough to do natty.... even with roids it would be hard

**Smak** · 08-12-2005, 01:04 PM

Mike O' Hearn is natural and swares by it. He was on American Gladiators. His website is below. This is about as good of a physique you can have naturally IMO

www.mikeohearn.com

**palumbo** · 08-12-2005, 01:24 PM

i agree if it was natural no way though

**Dave321** · 08-12-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by smak dat puzz

Mike O' Hearn is natural and swares by it. He was on American Gladiators. His website is below. This is about as good of a physique you can have naturally IMO

www.mikeohearn.com

I don't doubt he swears by it... but it's hard to believe...

**promiscio** · 08-12-2005, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

I don't doubt he swears by it... but it's hard to believe...

Professional Sports players swear about it in front of Congress and they come up as full of it too...

**palumbo** · 08-12-2005, 01:50 PM

whos gonna openly admit it if they have any common sense

**Smak** · 08-12-2005, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by palumbo

whos gonna openly admit it if they have any common sense

Jose Canseco, Arnold Schwarzenegger - There's 2 right there.

**palumbo** · 08-12-2005, 02:15 PM

true but all after the fact and one when it wasnt illegal

**Dally** · 08-12-2005, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

very nice...wtf is a penus? do you have one? hmmm

well, im sorry to hear you dont know whad a penus is.... that must mean you are a penASS

just like your mom..... dont forget to sign up in the female members forum...and let the men talk about their whoppers.

and Im not talkin burger king...which I have a feeling your farmiliar with.....tubbs.

chubby...thats right! I called you fat...look at me I'm skinny...but that doesn't stop me from gettin busy....

**Liftgod84** · 08-12-2005, 02:22 PM

I have arms over 20" and I have only done one cycle, and it was all for strength, nothing for size. . .and my arms were over 20" before I started my cycle in january.

**jgg1221** · 08-12-2005, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Liftgod84

I have arms over 20" and I have only done one cycle, and it was all for strength, nothing for size. . .and my arms were over 20" before I started my cycle in january.

how long have you been lifting?

**mike2nice** · 08-12-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

well, im sorry to hear you dont know whad a penus is.... that must mean you are a penASS

just like your mom..... dont forget to sign up in the female members forum...and let the men talk about their whoppers.

and Im not talkin burger king...which I have a feeling your farmiliar with.....tubbs.

chubby...thats right! I called you fat...look at me I'm skinny...but that doesn't stop me from gettin busy....

**Benches505** · 08-12-2005, 04:04 PM

Absolutely not with just average genetics! Naturals with 20" arms have great genetics or they have a lot of fat which makes the arm look big. If we are talking a defined 20" not likely even with good genetics, you need great genetics for that.

**Benches505** · 08-12-2005, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Liftgod84

I have arms over 20" and I have only done one cycle, and it was all for strength, nothing for size. . .and my arms were over 20" before I started my cycle in january.

According to your profile you are 285lbs with 12 % bodyfat. You do not qualify as average genetics assuming you have only done 1 strength cycle. Most of the guys that juice, myself included, are not 285lbs let alone 285 @ 12% BF.

**smiler** · 08-13-2005, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Dally

well, im sorry to hear you dont know whad a penus is.... that must mean you are a penASS

just like your mom..... dont forget to sign up in the female members forum...and let the men talk about their whoppers.

and Im not talkin burger king...which I have a feeling your farmiliar with.....tubbs.

chubby...thats right! I called you fat...look at me I'm skinny...but that doesn't stop me from gettin busy....

skinny??? actually just plain small...up the dosage ey?

**Rob** · 08-13-2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by smak dat puzz

Jose Canseco, Arnold Schwarzenegger - There's 2 right there.

Hogan, Preist etc.

**Smak** · 08-13-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by bigrob33

Hogan, Preist etc.

Werd. There's 2 more. Did you see Hogan admit on Leno with his family there that he used them in his wrestling career? It was pretty cool that he didn't give a fuk.

**just2getbig** · 08-13-2005, 11:29 AM

I know a lot of fat naturals with 20" arms. Defined Arnold Schwarzenegger arms not possible with out GREAT genetics.

**MrExtreme** · 08-13-2005, 12:08 PM

I started working out 1.5 years ago. and my arms were 11in. My arms are 16 inches never done a roid in my life.

I swear by Nitrix L-arginine. It will get you huge and good diet.

I think 1 or 2 more years I could possibly have 20in if I wanted too.

I just let my body grow naturally and see what happens.

Roids I'm sorry but is cheating if you want to be a cheater than use them.

Do they work? Hell yes. Are they extremely bad for you. Of course.

even with all the info on this site you have to be careful when taking them.

I would however recomend anadrol 50 (androlic british dispensary)

25mg a day with 25 mg Winstrol 50mg provirunum.

It will MAKE YOU CRAZY! YOU WILL WANT TO CUT PEOPLE AND MAYBE YOURSELF. I do not suggest it

BUT YOU CAN GAIN 1-2pounds a day. 15pounds in 2 weeks is not unusual.

-Alex

**Spyder** · 08-13-2005, 12:10 PM

You're kidding right? There is only a handful of people in this world who have achieved arnold's physique or better WITH steroids , i don't think anyone in history has done it without them.

**eGGz** · 08-13-2005, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by MrExtreme

I started working out 1.5 years ago. and my arms were 11in. My arms are 16 inches never done a roid in my life.

I swear by Nitrix L-arginine. It will get you huge and good diet.

I think 1 or 2 more years I could possibly have 20in if I wanted too.

I just let my body grow naturally and see what happens.

Roids I'm sorry but is cheating if you want to be a cheater than use them.

Do they work? Hell yes. Are they extremely bad for you. Of course.

even with all the info on this site you have to be careful when taking them.

I would however recomend anadrol 50 (androlic british dispensary)

25mg a day with 25 mg Winstrol 50mg provirunum.

It will MAKE YOU CRAZY! YOU WILL WANT TO CUT PEOPLE AND MAYBE YOURSELF. I do not suggest it

BUT YOU CAN GAIN 1-2pounds a day. 15pounds in 2 weeks is not unusual.

-Alex

**The Baron** · 08-13-2005, 12:32 PM

I saw an old lady this morning with at least 20" arms. Probably a 50" waist, too.

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**Spyder** · 08-13-2005, 12:50 PM

In the 1970's, Arnold's arms were bigger then alot of the pro bb's of today. This thread is an insult to Arnold. In this pic i believe his arms were 23inches, to achieve that kind of mass at a low bf you would need not only awesome genetics but also alot of AAS.

**eGGz** · 08-13-2005, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Spyder

In the 1970's, Arnold's arms were bigger then alot of the pro bb's of today. This thread is an insult to Arnold. In this pic i believe his arms were 23inches, to achieve that kind of mass at a low bf you would need not only awesome genetics but also alot of AAS.

Wow, he looks huge in that pic.

**IronFreakX** · 08-13-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by MrExtreme

I started working out 1.5 years ago. and my arms were 11in. My arms are 16 inches never done a roid in my life.

I swear by Nitrix L-arginine. It will get you huge and good diet.

TRY NITRO-TECH AND CELL-TECH

I think 1 or 2 more years I could possibly have 20in if I wanted too.

YES , IM SURE EVERYONE COULD LOOK LIKE ARNOLD IF THEY WANTED TO , BUT NO1 WANTS TO

I just let my body grow naturally and see what happens.

SO U WORKOUT EH?

Roids I'm sorry but is cheating if you want to be a cheater than use them.

ROIDS ARE CHEATING ONLY WHEN COMPETEING CUZ ITS AGAINST THE RULES BUT 1-EVERYONE IN THE COMPS TAKE THEM , SO UD BE A DUMB SOB NOT TO ,

Do they work? Hell yes. Are they extremely bad for you. Of course.

WHY ARE THEY EXTREMLY BAD ?? OH RITE THEY SHRINK UR DICK

even with all the info on this site you have to be careful when taking them.

AGREED

I would however recomend anadrol 50 (androlic british dispensary)

25mg a day with 25 mg Winstrol 50mg provirunum.

GUYS??SOME1 CHECK THIS..IM A DIET FORUM GEEK

It will MAKE YOU CRAZY! YOU WILL WANT TO CUT PEOPLE AND MAYBE YOURSELF. I do not suggest it

HMMM , I HAVE NEVER USED STEROIDS AND I WANT TO CUT PEOPLE AND MYSELF I GUESS IF U HAVE IT THEN U HAVE IT IF U DONT THEN U DONT STEROIDS WILL NOT CREATE IT
BUT YOU CAN GAIN 1-2pounds a day. 15pounds in 2 weeks is not unusual.

-Alex

my reply in CAPS!!!

**IronFreakX** · 08-13-2005, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by smak dat puzz

Mike O' Hearn is natural and swares by it. He was on American Gladiators. His website is below. This is about as good of a physique you can have naturally IMO

www.mikeohearn.com

Its not only bad that he's lying about his steroid use , he's also gay

**n4529359** · 08-13-2005, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by MrExtreme

I started working out 1.5 years ago. and my arms were 11in. My arms are 16 inches never done a roid in my life.

I swear by Nitrix L-arginine. It will get you huge and good diet.

I think 1 or 2 more years I could possibly have 20in if I wanted too.

I just let my body grow naturally and see what happens.

Roids I'm sorry but is cheating if you want to be a cheater than use them.

Do they work? Hell yes. Are they extremely bad for you. Of course.

even with all the info on this site you have to be careful when taking them.

I would however recomend anadrol 50 (androlic british dispensary)

25mg a day with 25 mg Winstrol 50mg provirunum.

It will MAKE YOU CRAZY! YOU WILL WANT TO CUT PEOPLE AND MAYBE YOURSELF. I do not suggest it

BUT YOU CAN GAIN 1-2pounds a day. 15pounds in 2 weeks is not unusual.

-Alex

you have a training age of 1.5 years? you would have not reached your genetic ceiling and you won't get gains as quickly and as easily as you did. trust me when you have reached a few plateaus lets see if u start thinking about roids

**Rebel Yell** · 08-14-2005, 12:51 AM

Canseco's a RAT douche bag. Forget his "honesty"

As for natural, very few have a chance of getting 20" arms naturally, and those few would had already near it to start with genertically, otherwise, if you think they're on AAS, there is a good chance they are or have.