Thread: Tribulus for PCT?
08-14-2005, 03:24 PM #1Junior Member
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Tribulus for PCT?
How important is tribulus for PCT? How much does it actually boost your natural test? Is nolva and tribulus good for PCT?
08-14-2005, 03:30 PM #2
Here are some facts from some studies done on Tribulus:
* A study done with healthy individuals taking 750mg of tribulus per day showed a 72% LH increase, and a 41% increase in testosterone .
* In a study conducted with 20 males and females, 75% of the participants had increased endurance, 80% had increased libido and sexual performance, and 95% of the females reported no PMS symptoms.
* A study conducted with 200 males suffering from impotence showed increase in LH and testosterone levels after supplementing Tribulus. The study also found a increase in sperm production.
08-14-2005, 03:33 PM #3
i like tribulus alot for pct, works very well for me. but i would make sure clomid is still apart of the pct as well
08-14-2005, 04:00 PM #4
Which would you say is superior for raising natural test production, during PCT, Clomid or Tribulus.
08-14-2005, 04:06 PM #5Originally Posted by striker93
clomid with out a doubt
08-14-2005, 04:21 PM #6Originally Posted by stocky121
08-14-2005, 04:24 PM #7Originally Posted by striker93
08-14-2005, 04:51 PM #8AR's Midget Beater
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Clomid and/or Nolva is a must in your PCT and Tribex should be an addition.
08-14-2005, 05:50 PM #9
Tribulus does work for me, but I seem to notice varied effectiveness between diff brands...
08-15-2005, 04:59 AM #10Originally Posted by TheMudMan
i.e. it resulted in a lower testosterone to estrogen level and an estrogen level that was well above normal.
Whenever you increase testosterone , you are going to increase aromatization and therefore estrogen levels. Usually natural test boosters work by stimulating LH release from the pituitary gland. Unfortunately, excess LH inhibitis the amount of GnRH that is produced in the hypothalamus - which is responsible for increasing LH in the first place!
So, you get a negative feedback loop in the HPTA. This means that natural test boosters like tribulus, tongkat ali etc. either need to be cycled because they only work for a few days, or they need to be taken with an anti-aromatase. All this trouble for only a very small increase in test!
08-15-2005, 07:21 AM #11New Member
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08-15-2005, 10:08 AM #12Originally Posted by FlyByU
I don't know if I would trust 1 source. I have used over 4g a day while not on a cycle with no anti-e's and have seen no signs of estrogen related sides.
08-15-2005, 10:12 AM #13
themudman i like ur research, last night i hit tha search button on this site and just typed in tribulus, every thread was people just stating "tribulus is worthless, i wouldnt spend my money on it again" but not stating any facts, thank u for tha facts
edit:Originally Posted by FlyByU
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08-15-2005, 10:30 AM #14
i think it is one of the best otc pct products...
08-15-2005, 11:06 AM #15Originally Posted by TheMudMan
I'm not saying the estrogen can't be produced by using the product but too many studies are out there that indicate otherwise. The one that FlyByU read wasn't a study and also it was just what happen to one male.
08-15-2005, 03:01 PM #16Originally Posted by FlyByU
"Whenever you increase testosterone, you are going to increase aromatization and therefore estrogen levels"
Then everyone would have GYNO because EVERYONE has fluctuating levels of testosetrone. As long as you're not producing SUPRAPHYSIOLGICAL LEVELS of testosterone (and Test will ALWAYS stay within the normal range on trib), your body can utilize cicrulating testosterone for anabolism and overall function. EXCESS testosterone ONLY occurs in either Aromatase sensitive individuals(those who are predisposed to higher estrogen levels due to an overactive aromatase enzyme) or when SUPRAPHYSIOLOGICAL levels of testosterone are being administered. In Aromatase sensitive individuals, GYNO can and DOES occur naturally--usually during puberty when a surge in androgens takes place.
Tribulus Extract will increase TESTOSTERONE production without an increase in aromatization.(as it does NOT pass your naural threshold) Furthermore, Tribulus sensitizes the Pituitary like NOLVA, while Clomid desensitizes it. Tribulus can not cause a negative feedback loop, as Tribulus does not cause an OVERSTIMULATION of LH, as is the case with HCG .
As for Tongkat, it dosn't even increase test PRODUCTION...It increases Free TEST, 4-adiol, and DHEA.
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