tren only

**Samson1** · 08-16-2005, 07:45 AM

Anybody got any experience with a tren only cycle?

what sort of gains?
what sort of side affects?
what sort of pct is needed?

nice one fellas

**Wrestlingkompressor** · 08-16-2005, 07:55 AM

If you do a search this question has been asked. The short answer is it has been done by a few bros, but it's a really bad idea. Tren is will shut you down hardcore, anyone on the board will suggest running a dosage of testosterone concurrently.

**01dragonslayer** · 08-16-2005, 07:58 AM

Tren only.....NO. Prop/tren....YEP.

**The Baron** · 08-16-2005, 10:51 AM

Tren and prop go together like peas and carrots. The two stacked together make one of the nicest short cycles there is, but you can also carry on for as long as you can stand ED shots.

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**diezell** · 08-16-2005, 11:42 AM

i think even tren with test e would be a great cycle ive heard that the tren helps to keep some water weight from the test off

**doghunter** · 08-16-2005, 11:55 AM

i have done high tren alone and got super strong 450+ bench strong just to give u an idea its makes ur body super hard muscle like flexed all the time i love it i would do one shot of test e a week and it stayed even but i have done it with out the test great results not alot of size but for people who are already big and want to get strong this works , no i do not reccomend u to do this i do not get gyno or anything i have run tren 125mg-200mg ed no shut downs nippiles got barley even sore once when i was off for four months .but i love tren more than any other gear out there fast acting and packs one hell of a punch , tren a and test e made me a monster seriously it made me insane wanted to kill people with machine guns at work visions played in my head clear as a movie and i just flip out and destroy shit

**Samson1** · 08-17-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by doghunter

i have done high tren alone and got super strong 450+ bench strong just to give u an idea its makes ur body super hard muscle like flexed all the time i love it i would do one shot of test e a week and it stayed even but i have done it with out the test great results not alot of size but for people who are already big and want to get strong this works , no i do not reccomend u to do this i do not get gyno or anything i have run tren 125mg-200mg ed no shut downs nippiles got barley even sore once when i was off for four months .but i love tren more than any other gear out there fast acting and packs one hell of a punch , tren a and test e made me a monster seriously it made me insane wanted to kill people with machine guns at work visions played in my head clear as a movie and i just flip out and destroy shit

ok so if i was to run it alone i would still be able to gain strength,i do accept the downfalls of running it alone,but i am a fighter and i don't wanna hold water and fat like the d'bol deca did, I have a great diet and always train my hardest i think that a tren only cycle will suit me, what do you all think

**Liftgod84** · 08-17-2005, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Samson1

ok so if i was to run it alone i would still be able to gain strength,i do accept the downfalls of running it alone,but i am a fighter and i don't wanna hold water and fat like the d'bol deca did, I have a great diet and always train my hardest i think that a tren only cycle will suit me, what do you all think

yeah you would get strong, that is what tren does. you have to realize that you should run it concurrently with test. i prefer test levels a smidge higher then the tren levels to prevent any kind of shutdown. lets say you run it with prop, you won't retain too much watter. i have never the seen the bloat associated with say enthante or sust250, with prop. so why don't you read up a little more, ask around a bit, before you decide to go for a tren only cycle.

**doghunter** · 08-18-2005, 08:54 AM

u get more raw power from tren than any one gear alone , but yes read up a bit i would not tell u to do the tren only cycle but i like tren and test together its very good i have done tren a and test e together and it seemed like the longer i stayed on it the stronger i got it never seemed to stop i went from about 360bench press to about 455 and thats what i stopped at i might of got 465 they way i felt that night

**O'Banion** · 08-18-2005, 10:32 AM

Tren is a progesterone. You need to stack it with some sort of test. Otherwise you're gonna have some serious erectile problems.

**jerseyboy** · 08-18-2005, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Samson1

ok so if i was to run it alone i would still be able to gain strength,i do accept the downfalls of running it alone,but i am a fighter and i don't wanna hold water and fat like the d'bol deca did, I have a great diet and always train my hardest i think that a tren only cycle will suit me, what do you all think

Do you have something against test or you like nuts the size of peas? Wait and get some test. Running 1,000 mg of test E along with 700mg of tren EW along with arimidex and I'm holding almost no water. Been running it all summer and I'm ripped.

**Drummerboy** · 08-18-2005, 10:40 AM

simple

1) good hard quality gains. strength
2) side effects depend on dose, but if you go high, sweats, insomnia, nervousness, etc. watch for slightly possible gyno (progesterone related)
3) Yes, most people need PCT with tren use. very few dont. HCG and nolva should do it.

Tren works alone. ive tried it. expect sex drive loss/changes. i would recommend it with prop though, as baron said.

**Benches505** · 08-18-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by O'Banion

Tren is a progesterone. You need to stack it with some sort of test. Otherwise you're gonna have some serious erectile problems.

That is a fact! and even running it with test doesn't always help. Prop is the only test that I will stack with tren for that reason.

**Papi93** · 08-18-2005, 12:53 PM

I looking to compete in a MA tourament in December. If I'm going to gain bodyweight, I want it to be all muscle tissue gains and no water retention. I'm doing a tren -only cycle right now and have no erectile problems, yet (past 6 weeks). I'm using tren-acetate at 60mg ED and love the increased aggression, muscle mass, and muscle strength. Since I do not have testicular atrophy, I will be using just Clomid for PCT. I probably could get away with tribulus but I have read that Clomid is much stronger. If you experience shutdown, then you're going to need some HCG , as well.

**wink182** · 08-18-2005, 10:13 PM

Thanks for starting this thread, I was considering a similar experiment, good luck!

**depdaddy** · 08-18-2005, 10:21 PM

some guys say they havent had any problems with tren only..i personally like to have sex to much to try tren only..even when i run tren with test i make sure i have plenty of levitra or cialis on hand

dep

**Papi93** · 09-02-2005, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

Do you have something against test or you like nuts the size of peas? Wait and get some test. Running 1,000 mg of test E along with 700mg of tren EW along with arimidex and I'm holding almost no water. Been running it all summer and I'm ripped.

Taking test with tren won't prevent testicular atrophy, will it? I thought HCG was used to prevent testicular atrophy while on-cycle.

**eGGz** · 09-02-2005, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by striker93

Taking test with tren won't prevent testicular atrophy, will it? Nope. I thought HCG was used to prevent testicular atrophy while on-cycle. It is.

**Papi93** · 09-02-2005, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Liftgod84

yeah you would get strong, that is what tren does. you have to realize that you should run it concurrently with test. i prefer test levels a smidge higher then the tren levels to prevent any kind of shutdown. lets say you run it with prop, you won't retain too much watter. i have never the seen the bloat associated with say enthante or sust250, with prop. so why don't you read up a little more, ask around a bit, before you decide to go for a tren only cycle.

When you say that test will prevent shutdown, are you meaning that the test will keep your libido going? From what I have read, and from what eggz said, test will shut you down as well.

**eGGz** · 09-03-2005, 01:12 PM

Supraphysiological doses of test will have the same effect on your natural test production. That is, it will be hindered. If your system detects an increased level of testosterone it will attempt to maintain its predetermined hormonal balnace. The reason you still need to use test in any cycle is because the artifically induced testosterone keeps everything up and running. Without it there can be many negatives. Loss of libido is one. As you can tell I'm a firm believer in the use of test.

**Papi93** · 09-03-2005, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Samson1

Anybody got any experience with a tren only cycle?

what sort of gains?
what sort of side affects?
what sort of pct is needed?

nice one fellas

Samson1, any updates on your tren-only cycle?

**Samson1** · 09-03-2005, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by striker93

Samson1, any updates on your tren-only cycle?

Im doing reat Tren is great stuff,Im 2and a half weeks in and i am seeing my strength rise nicley,I always find that i tend to respond slowley to steroids but when it does finaly hit the results are class,As for sides All iv had so far is nightmares,aggresion and sweating but its early days yet my sex drive seems fine,Howe long did it take for the tren to really hit home with you mate

**Papi93** · 09-03-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Samson1

Im doing reat Tren is great stuff,Im 2and a half weeks in and i am seeing my strength rise nicley,I always find that i tend to respond slowley to steroids but when it does finaly hit the results are class,As for sides All iv had so far is nightmares,aggresion and sweating but its early days yet my sex drive seems fine,Howe long did it take for the tren to really hit home with you mate

I'm currently on my nineth week and my sex drive is down (use cialis when necessary) and some minor testicular atrophy but it's worth the lean gains I will have after PCT. I've put on 22 lbs. with using bodyweight-only exercises.

I've plateaued at about week 6, as far as weight gain is concerned. My strength is still going up, that's why I'm looking to go for at least 10 weeks.

**cannibal** · 09-03-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by O'Banion

Tren is a progesterone. You need to stack it with some sort of test. Otherwise you're gonna have some serious erectile problems.

Exactly what he said!

I ran tren alone for 8 weeks years ago when I was a dumbass and failed to do my research.

I gained mass/strength there is no doubt about that, however I did no PCT at all and I lost my sex drive for nearly 2 years because of that shit.

The only positive thing about that was when I did have sex for those 2 years following it was like I could kcuf forever and ever without getting a nut off. Now that my shit is back to normal, I at least learned something from those two years. Longer duration is not always better to woman, but it sure as hell beats the shit out of slam/bam/thankyoumam and getting an orgasm before she does, leaving her hanging with dissatisfaction. Thank goodness we get wiser with age and I have learned from my mistake!

As others have said....Test is MANDATORY with Tren....and thats the bottomline, take it from me!

**Papi93** · 09-03-2005, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by cannibal

Exactly what he said!

I ran tren alone for 8 weeks years ago when I was a dumbass and failed to do my research.

I gained mass/strength there is no doubt about that, however I did no PCT at all and I lost my sex drive for nearly 2 years because of that shit.

The only positive thing about that was when I did have sex for those 2 years following it was like I could kcuf forever and ever without getting a nut off. Now that my shit is back to normal, I at least learned something from those two years. Longer duration is not always better to woman, but it sure as hell beats the shit out of slam/bam/thankyoumam and getting an orgasm before she does, leaving her hanging with dissatisfaction. Thank goodness we get wiser with age and I have learned from my mistake!

As others have said....Test is MANDATORY with Tren....and thats the bottomline, take it from me!

If you had used PCT, so sex drive would have returned at the same time as if you had used test. I guess I asking this rather than making a statement, since you have experience with this matter. Test suppresses you, during your cycle, but it allows you to keep bangin' your woman. The main benefit of test, as I have read, is to keep your sex drive up.

**LuckyDragon** · 09-04-2005, 07:31 PM

Just try it with test. Just ending the 2nd week of Tren and was on the verge of having a pumpgasm. Finally know what Arnold was talking about, though saying it lasts all day is exaggeration. Hell if you cant have an orgasm you can have a Trengasm. Anyways just use test with it

**ward065** · 09-04-2005, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Chute

Just try it with test. Just ending the 2nd week of Tren and was on the verge of having a pumpgasm. Finally know what Arnold was talking about, though saying it lasts all day is exaggeration. Hell if you cant have an orgasm you can have a Trengasm. Anyways just use test with it

lmao! i already know what it is like to feel pumped, but this sounds like something else. How much tren r u running?

**LuckyDragon** · 09-04-2005, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by ward065

lmao! i already know what it is like to feel pumped, but this sounds like something else. How much tren r u running?

Not sure, its homemade between 50-90mg/ml at 1ml a day. Ive had the same thing happen off gear 2 years ago. They are very rare, but when it hits whoa

**T Bone** · 09-05-2005, 03:26 PM

I ran tren by itself two years ago. I put on about 18 pounds during the six weeks I ran it. I stopped because I could not handle the everyday shots. I had no erectile problems, minimal water gain, some nightmares, and excessive sweating. The time during pct was hard though.

The following year I ran Test E with Tren and it was awesome. There was no comparison in regards to results, strength, and my sense of well being. I will never run another cycle again without Test.

**ward065** · 09-05-2005, 05:46 PM

if you don't like ED tren shots, couldn't you buy (or make) some tren enanthate ?

**Papi93** · 09-05-2005, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by T Bone

I ran tren by itself two years ago. I put on about 18 pounds during the six weeks I ran it. I stopped because I could not handle the everyday shots. I had no erectile problems, minimal water gain, some nightmares, and excessive sweating. The time during pct was hard though.

The following year I ran Test E with Tren and it was awesome. There was no comparison in regards to results, strength, and my sense of well being. I will never run another cycle again without Test.

What type of PCT did you use? Why was the recovery like? What did you retain from the 18 pounds? Your avatar is the best

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**bradd5150** · 09-06-2005, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by doghunter

but i love tren more than any other gear out there fast acting and packs one hell of a punch , tren a and test e made me a monster seriously it made me insane wanted to kill people with machine guns at work visions played in my head clear as a movie and i just flip out and destroy shit

funniest sh*t i ever heard. Been wanting to do a test/tren cycle and i've now made my mind up. I want to feel that kind of aggression.

**doghunter** · 09-12-2005, 05:21 PM

funny but true as hell make sure u can handle the anger if the combo makes u a little crazy

**Ejuicer** · 09-12-2005, 08:57 PM

From tren only great strength gains, pretty good mass increase, vascularity... also hairloss though but no sex problems. Wouldnt run it again by itself though just to be on the safe side.