08-17-2005, 08:38 PM #1
Has anyone here every used this stuff..Its supposed to be good stuff with great results and no side effects...It was stumbled upon by body builders since it was orginally used to patients with muscle atrophy...I'm thinking about trying it....Any Pros or Cons???
08-17-2005, 10:08 PM #2
This is the first I have heard of it. Sounds like a lot of hype, but who knows, maybe it works.
08-17-2005, 10:13 PM #3
This is the public press release given by ENDOVASC (the company making the stuff). Hope it helps with some of the questions.
Nutraceutical Development Corp.'s Endothil-CR Begins Sales
MONTGOMERY, Texas--June 7, 2005--Endovasc, Inc. - (OTCBB: EVSC - News; OTC:EVSD - News) announces today that Endothil-CR, a non-steroid supplement based on the Company's proprietary technology for muscle cell recruiting and accelerated bodybuilding, is featured in a
national print and e-marketing campaign. The product is currently available at the website and will be available at retail outlets nationwide this summer. Endothil-CR was
first showcased at the Arnold Classic, where it was marketed to bodybuilders and fitness buffs.
Louis Rinaldi, Head of Product Acquisitions at Basic Research in Salt Lake City, stated, "We are
excited that Endothil-CR is now available to the general public. Even prior to the full retail launch of
the product, the initial sales numbers look strong. The product is being well received by fitness
enthusiasts and by the so-called 'couch potato', people with little or no exercise history who are
starting an exercise regimen but have limited time to spend in the gym and yet are looking to get
maximum strength and muscle growth gains from their efforts. Bottom line, we feel there is great
market potential for a natural muscle enhancement supplement such as Endothil-CR that appeals to
and can benefit enthusiasts and beginners alike."
Endovasc CEO and President Dr. Diane Dottavio, "We are pleased with the initial response to our in-
novative product as we have already received numerous positive testimonials from current users. I
believe that as more people are exposed to the potential benefits of Endothil, the more popular it will
Endovasc's wholly-owned subsidiary, Nutraceutical Development Corporation (NDC) was
established to create a nutraceutical pipeline. A nutraceutical is a substance that may be considered a
food or part of a food and may provide health benefits. Endovasc's first formulation contains a
naturally occurring plant alkaloid as the primary active component. The clinically documented
results include enhanced muscle mass and strength gains in muscle groups in both the upper and
(Curtosy of TADOLFI)
Hope this helps.
08-17-2005, 10:37 PM #4
I've been wondering myself about the stuff, saw it in Muscle and Fit, sorry no other input.
08-17-2005, 11:32 PM #5
Personally since all the so called "research" was funded by the company trying to release the compound, not to mention the studies were never reviewed nor were there any independent studies done to see if it really works, i would hold off on it until more comes out, or just not use it altogether.
08-17-2005, 11:53 PM #6
I am very, very skeptical about this product. I doubt it works.
08-18-2005, 03:15 AM #7
When the govt outlaws it, then you will know that at least someone thinks it might work. When you see it on 20/20 or nightline, hyped as the new supersteroid, you will know it probably works for at least some people. But I can jsut about tell you without even having seen the ads for it, that it's main purpose is to make money for the company. As long as guys will buy it just on the strength of the ads, it will serve its purpose admirably.
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11-01-2005, 10:33 PM #8Junior Member
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found from bb.com
One of the biggest scams currently available. Their [Novex Biotech] marketing appears to be almost as bad as Fizogen's. If you're wondering what Endoshit-CR, contains, it's right here:
What's In It?
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Total Carbohydrates 0g
Riboflavin 6.8mg 400%
Proprietary Blend 9mg
-Green Tomato SE
-Grape Seed SE
-Grean Tea SE
Cane sugar, tomato powder, mono-and diglycerides, salt stearic acid, natural flavors, FD&C red #40 lake, magnesium stearate, and silica.
As you can clearly see, there's nothing in it. I used to actually think it said Riboflavin at 6.8g, but nope--it's mg. Then we have a "proprietary blend" (how exciting, Novex) @ a whopping 9mg consisting of green tomato, grapeseed, green tea, quercetin, and rutin.
Even if these were in effective dosages (9mg is literally a sprinkle of each, if that), it wouldn't do anything for anabolism. Green tea is a potent antioxidant, but not in the amount Novex Bioshit is giving you, which is probably something like <5mg considering it's listed third on the proprietary blend (generally--proprietary blends are listed in order from "most" to "least" contained in the product, plus that's not even getting into EGCG% which wouldn't matter anyway).
And then they go and say it's going to do the same thing as steriods . Please never buy anything from this company and spread the word.
11-01-2005, 10:35 PM #9
More connies than professionals. (More cons than pro's.)
12-27-2005, 11:25 AM #10
yeah i was thinking the same thing, i put up a post in the supplements page about endothil-cr, i have not heard of any sucess stories w/ this new supplement
12-28-2005, 09:14 PM #11
Its poo! Look at the bloomin ingredients!
12-28-2005, 09:29 PM #12
I gained 30 lbs. of lean muscle max from it and now have women flocking all over me.
Think I can get an endorsement deal?
04-16-2006, 08:33 PM #13New Member
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I have used endothil and have had great gains with it I think that thoes ingredients are limited. I have no doubt in my mind the stuff works.
04-16-2006, 08:43 PM #14Junior Member
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I read somewhere that siad the main ingredient in this #### is green tomato extract, hell if that works then I guess I will be taking up gardening and doing nothing but grow un-ripe tomatos
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