nolva having opposite effect!!!!

**Hardcore life** · 08-17-2005, 08:53 PM

WTF!! ok i started taking nolva a week before my cycle and now my nips are getting bigger. it feels like theres more fat on my chest than before. i just took 10mg today and this is whats happening! why?! its real cause my friend has the same sh!t but its having this effect on me. am i paranoid or is this really happening. now i took prohormones a while back and i got a mild case of gyno. my nips dont hurt and are not sensitive but it just seems like there starting to protrude already. what should i do?

**305GUY** · 08-17-2005, 08:55 PM

Why did u start nolva a week b4 your cycle?

**Hardcore life** · 08-17-2005, 08:58 PM

i heard on this board it takes 2 weeks to take effect so to start it a week or two early

**BeerBaron** · 08-17-2005, 09:16 PM

It's not making it worse, you just arent using enough. Use letro while on a cycle anyway.

**Seattle Junk** · 08-17-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

It's not making it worse, you just arent using enough. Use letro while on a cycle anyway.

Yeah, letro is the strongest anti-e you can use. What BB said.

**RUI-Products** · 08-17-2005, 11:58 PM

save the nolva for PCt

**The Baron** · 08-18-2005, 01:44 AM

I like a low dose of nolva right through the cycle for HDL support, but the big medicine for bloat is of course letro. Go easy on it, though... too little estrogen in you can hold back your gains, though maybe not to an excessive degree. It will also reduce your sex drive, generally. Use what you need, and no more. Ideally, you should see some bloat, but not a lot. I know, hard to really judge, but that's what you gotta do when running letro for a long time. If you got gyno, 2.5mg/ED. For simple prevention or to correct your water balance slightly, as little as .5mg/ED might prove more than enough.

One thing to remember about estrogen management and nolva vs letro or anastozole... nolva has an immediate effect, blocking the est that is already in your system. Letro does nothing to the est already present... it simply retards the formation of more estrogen. So the double barrel approach is called for when gyno appears, or to immediately correct bloating if you just can't stand it.

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**TheMudMan** · 08-18-2005, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Hardcore life

i heard on this board it takes 2 weeks to take effect so to start it a week or two early

You're correct it could take a few weeks to get blood levels peaked before anti-e's will start working. I start mine 2 weeks out from the start of my cycle.

I don't know why you would be seeing what you are on your chest....... The nolva will bind to the receptor site but I have never had the problem you are.

**Hardcore life** · 08-18-2005, 10:55 AM

well this morning i woke up and my nips were still puffy and i didnt take anymore nolva, but it almost feels like there is water under my nipple. I havent started my cycle yet as stated above but am hesitant because of this. my nips look like theyve stretched out a little and the appear bigger. This SUCKS!!!! i was so looking forward to my fuc king cycle!

**Hardcore life** · 08-18-2005, 11:12 AM

ok so you say to get letro but if nolva and letro are ANTI-e's then why the hell would i be getting gyno from them?

**mark956101957** · 08-18-2005, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Lion

save the nolva for PCt

IF the guy is getting gyno why would he save the Nolvadex for pct? He should be increasing the Nolvadex! 60-80mg. ??????????????????????????????????????? I also suggest using arimidex 0.5mg ED. Letro is very harsh on the lipids.