confused about how nad what to stack and cycle

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08-20-2005, 12:50 PM
AHMAD

confused about how nad what to stack and cycle

im 28 years old / 177cm tall - about 6 feet , 107 kg weight around 253lbs my body type in between of mesomorph and endomorph.
i was wondering what kind (or the best ) steroids should i use to score my goals which is:

*Lose about 7 – 10 kg of fat.
*gain and increase quality mass lean hard ripped and stable muscles that i won't loss whine i stope cycling.
*keeping the water retention as low as possible. To get the ripped look.

nothing new , i gues this goals what ever one looking to score..

i browsed 100's of website thats makes me more confused that i was before. While i was trying to educate my self and get a useful informations, so here what im searching for :

stacks and cycles that helps to gain and increase quality mass lean hard ripped and stable muscles and/or what kinda steroides could i stack and it may helps to score my goals.
I cycled before :

Primopolan and win 10 x 10 / 5 weeks

2nd cycle :9 amp of parabolan ( 75 mg - 1.5 ml ) 225/week and 10 amp of primmobolan - depot ( 100 mg - 1 ml ) 300/week , some how i can feel it working preety good , my musclers get harder than before but no big different with the size , need your suggestings and consulting about what steroids to stack and cycle to score my goals.

:scratch: some ppl advise me to run test cyp/400/week and equi/400/week
08-20-2005, 12:56 PM
PSman00

read the threads about everyone elses 1st cycles. get info from them.

I may be wrong, but from what i've read from everyone else, 1st cycle = at least test only.

but then again, who listens to me. lol
08-20-2005, 01:02 PM
smokethedays

u shouldn't use AAS to lose ur body fat IMO, but for the cycle u were adviced (Test and EQ) it's kinda weak for ur size.
i say u should go for 600 mg/week Test Cyp. or E. and 500 mg/week EQ. with a double dose fronloading.
ofcourse Anti-E and PCT, Vitamens, and proper diet.
08-20-2005, 02:58 PM
AHMAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSman00

read the threads about everyone elses 1st cycles. get info from them.

I may be wrong, but from what i've read from everyone else, 1st cycle = at least test only.

but then again, who listens to me. lol

i would listen to you , and thanx
08-20-2005, 03:05 PM
AHMAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokethedays

u shouldn't use AAS to lose ur body fat IMO, but for the cycle u were adviced (Test and EQ) it's kinda weak for ur size.
i say u should go for 600 mg/week Test Cyp. or E. and 500 mg/week EQ. with a double dose fronloading.
ofcourse Anti-E and PCT, Vitamens, and proper diet.

do u suggest to add any other stuff ?

i also had s suggestion from some guy to run this cycle :
(weeks 1 - 6 )
Testosterone Enanthate / 500 mg
Deca / 400 mg
D-Bol /30 mg/day
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

(weeks 7 - 10 )
Testosterone Enanthate / 500 mg
Deca / 400 mg
Winstrol 50mg/Day
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

( weeks 11-12 )
Winstrol 50mg/Day
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

(weeks 13-14-15)
Clomid Therapy
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

which cycle do u think is ganna score my goals ?
08-20-2005, 03:09 PM
smokethedays

i won't do 17-AA for 12 weeks (winstrol and D-bol), that's way to much for ur liver.
i must Deca is fine but for more quality results stick to EQ.
08-20-2005, 03:21 PM
AHMAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokethedays

i won't do 17-AA for 12 weeks (winstrol and D-bol), that's way to much for ur liver.
i must Deca is fine but for more quality results stick to EQ.

so i suld stack EQ and drop the winstrol and D-bol, so the sysle would be

Test cyp or Enan/600/week and EQ/500/week for 12 weeks

thanx bro for the info
08-20-2005, 03:24 PM
smokethedays

keep the D-bol for the 1st 4 weeks only, and drop the winny.
u can add the winny at the end of the cycle, alone or with some Test to give u a vascular look.
do the Test for 2 weeks more over the EQ, so if u do 12 weeks Eq, do 14 week Test.
08-20-2005, 03:47 PM
AHMAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokethedays

keep the D-bol for the 1st 4 weeks only, and drop the winny.
u can add the winny at the end of the cycle, alone or with some Test to give u a vascular look.
do the Test for 2 weeks more over the EQ, so if u do 12 weeks Eq, do 14 week Test.

you mean that how it should be : correct me if im wrong
(weeks 1 -4 )
D-Bol /30 mg/day

(weeks 1 - 6 )
Testosterone Enanthate / 600 mg
EQ / 500 mg
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

(weeks 7 - 10 )
Testosterone Enanthate / 600 mg
EQ / 500 mg
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

( weeks 11-12 )
Testosterone Enanthate / 600 mg
Winstrol 50mg/Day
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

(weeks 13-14-15)
Clomid Therapy
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

(weeks 13-14-15)
Clomid Therapy
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

and do u think D-Bol /30 mg/day is fime or higher doses ( 40 - 50 ) needed ..