Anyone Use Clomid Past Three Weeks?

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08-21-2005, 10:28 PM
Papi93

Anyone Use Clomid Past Three Weeks?

I know this question should be in the PCT forum but no one answers questions in there. After a 12 week test e-only cycle, could you use clomid for the following 12 week off period? Three weeks for PCT is the norm. Could clomid be used in place of tribulus, for high-normal test levels, after week 3 of PCT? Would the sides stop people from doing this? Thanks for your patience!
08-21-2005, 11:36 PM
Seattle Junk

No, that wouldn't be plesant for you. Your estrogen levels shoot up with your natural test levels on clomid. That's why you read about people saying they feel like a 13 year old girl while on clomid. You just want to use clomid for 3-4 weeks to recover your natty test levels then stay on tribulus. I would recommend HCG 1000ius week (2 injections of 500ius) 3 weeks leading up to your last test e shot to bring your balls back to size and get your natty test going.
08-21-2005, 11:38 PM
Drummerboy

yes, some ppl use clomid longer. agree with the HCG usage from seattle... use it before PCT, and use it with nolva, 10mg ED, and if you want, ldex while on clomid too to dry up.
08-21-2005, 11:39 PM
Seattle Junk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drummerboy

yes, some ppl use clomid longer. agree with the HCG usage from seattle... use it before PCT, and use it with nolva, 10mg ED, and if you want, ldex while on clomid too to dry up.

Oh yeah, nolva too. Forgot to metion that, thanks DB.
08-21-2005, 11:44 PM
Drummerboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Oh yeah, nolva too. Forgot to metion that, thanks DB.

no prob, support bro, i need some too sometimes :wg:
08-22-2005, 01:06 PM
Papi93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

No, that wouldn't be plesant for you. Your estrogen levels shoot up with your natural test levels on clomid. That's why you read about people saying they feel like a 13 year old girl while on clomid. You just want to use clomid for 3-4 weeks to recover your natty test levels then stay on tribulus. I would recommend HCG 1000ius week (2 injections of 500ius) 3 weeks leading up to your last test e shot to bring your balls back to size and get your natty test going.

I did not know that about estrogen levels. Thanks!
08-22-2005, 01:22 PM
demirsteel

Do not use clomid longer. Why?

1. Eye vision problems occur.
2. Mental problems. Clomid is a SERM. It acts estrogen and anti-estrogen special to area of your body. On mental it act as estrogen.
3. On periods longer than 4 weeks it tends to decrease testicles response to LH. very bad! You can read Hooker's profile. For longer usage nolvadex is preferred. It is also a SERM but you will use much less dosages. Also it increases testicles response to LH on periods longer than 6 weeks. We can argue whichever is best for classic PCT about 3-4 weeks. But weeks longer than 6 nolvadex is the best without argue.
08-22-2005, 03:24 PM
Drummerboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by demirsteel

Do not use clomid longer. Why?

1. Eye vision problems occur.
2. Mental problems. Clomid is a SERM. It acts estrogen and anti-estrogen special to area of your body. On mental it act as estrogen.
3. On periods longer than 4 weeks it tends to decrease testicles response to LH. very bad! You can read Hooker's profile. For longer usage nolvadex is preferred. It is also a SERM but you will use much less dosages. Also it increases testicles response to LH on periods longer than 6 weeks. We can argue whichever is best for classic PCT about 3-4 weeks. But weeks longer than 6 nolvadex is the best without argue.

good points
08-22-2005, 04:04 PM
Ntpadude

Quote:

Originally Posted by striker93

I know this question should be in the PCT forum but no one answers questions in there. After a 12 week test e-only cycle, could you use clomid for the following 12 week off period? Three weeks for PCT is the norm. Could clomid be used in place of tribulus, for high-normal test levels, after week 3 of PCT? Would the sides stop people from doing this? Thanks for your patience!

Once you recover then be done with it. As for tribulus, that is terrible... that is the worst because tribulus doesnt cause estrogen via aromatisation of boosted testosterone... it directly generates estrogen from DHEA and other non-testosterones in your body. Just use clomid long enough to be snapped back to normal and get off it and tribulus. Tongkat ali is the only sane herbal to be on for long term. Staying on clomid too long (over 4 weeks) is where you get changes in vision.
08-22-2005, 04:11 PM
Keyser Sozey

Clomid turns me into "A thirteen year old girl, on her period"
No bs, it does.

Striker93, I found this great read from DrummerBoy. It includes a bunch of good info about pct, in general.

http://www.forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=185241
08-22-2005, 06:32 PM
Papi93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Sozey

Clomid turns me into "A thirteen year old girl, on her period"
No bs, it does.

Striker93, I found this great read from DrummerBoy. It includes a bunch of good info about pct, in general.

http://www.forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=185241

Thanks for the thread!
08-22-2005, 07:02 PM
jinos

[QUOTE=Keyser Sozey]Clomid turns me into "A thirteen year old girl, on her period"
No bs, it does.

Puhahaha!!! Same here bro. Clomid is some crazy stuff man. :lol:
08-23-2005, 10:02 AM
BIGD2515

clomid sucks bro it gave me the shits and ****ed up my stomach
08-23-2005, 10:09 AM
jesse_james

I always run clomid for 4 weeks together with Nolva
08-24-2005, 05:25 AM
FlyByU

Personally, I think people run clomid at much too high a dose. According to Swale, 25mg is a high dose for clomid. Side effects can be drastically reduced if doses are kept low, which would obviate the need to completely eliminate clomid from pct.
08-24-2005, 05:30 AM
demirsteel

Nolvadex acts as estrogen in the liver aids liver and improves HDL/LDL ratio.