My Winter Cycle, is it too much?!!

[smokethedays]

week 1-16 Test E or Cyp. 750 mg/week
week 1-14 Eq 500 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
week 15-20 Winstrol 75 mg/day
week 17-19 Clen 140 mcg/day
PCT of: HCG , Clomid, and Clen
Nolvadex or Arimidex , depends on how much $ i'll be left with.

[Smak]

Everythings looks good. That will be similar to my next cycle, but running deca instead of EQ and var instead of winny. Good luck and keep me updated. BTW I like your old avatar better

[Keyser Sozey]

Yes, it is too much, buddy. You will need to send me the winnie and the dbols.

JK bro. You're going to grow like a weed
Awesome Cycle!

[Smak]

Yes, it is too much, buddy. You will need to send me the winnie and the dbols.

JK bro. You're going to grow like a weed
Awesome Cycle!

Yea this is a kick ass cycle. It's making me wet right now.

[smokethedays]

Everythings looks good. That will be similar to my next cycle, but running deca instead of EQ and var instead of winny. Good luck and keep me updated. BTW I like your old avatar better

thanx bro, u mean the Avatar of me posing?

[Smak]

thanx bro, u mean the Avatar of me?!

Yea LOL. You kind of look like Lou Ferrigno. I didn't realize it was you.

[BlInDsIdE]

are u trying to cut or bulk???

[TheMudMan]

If you go with cyp you can end the EQ and cyp the same week. Also if you have the cash I would run the EQ eith at the same dose as the test or at least 600mg.

I don't know about the winny. It could be a waste if your bf isn't low. Also, you need to run the winny weeks 14 - 19 if using Cyp or 13 - 18 if using Enan. Also, if this is your first time with Winny use 50mg ED

Do not use HCG durring PCT. It will hinder recovery because it mimics LH. Either use it durring the cycle at 500iu 2x per week or weeks 16 and 17 500iu 2x per week

[smokethedays]

Yea LOL. You kind of look like Lou Ferrigno. I didn't realize it was you.

lots of ppl think so too.

[Smak]

are u trying to cut or bulk???

This is what you call a bulk/cut cycle.

[punchrf]

week 1-16 Test E or Cyp. 750 mg/week
week 1-14 Eq 500 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
week 15-20 Winstrol 75 mg/day
week 17-19 Clen 140 mcg/day
PCT of: HCG , Clomid, and Clen
Nolvadex or Arimidex, depends on how much $ i'll be left with.

this is very similar to winter cycle coming up except my test and eq will be a little higher and dbol will be substituted for anadrol at 100mg ed. clen is a little high for me. i'm going to stick around 80-100mcg with some t3. i like this cycle though. maybe bump the eq up a bit.

[smokethedays]

If you go with cyp you can end the EQ and cyp the same week. Also if you have the cash I would run the EQ eith at the same dose as the test or at least 600mg.

I don't know about the winny. It could be a waste if your bf isn't low. Also, you need to run the winny weeks 14 - 19 if using Cyp or 13 - 18 if using Enan. Also, if this is your first time with Winny use 50mg ED

Do not use HCG durring PCT. It will hinder recovery because it mimics LH. Either use it durring the cycle at 500iu 2x per week or weeks 16 and 17 500iu 2x per week

i've done winny up to 80 mg/day.
i usually end my cycle with Clen and Winny alone, and lose about 3-4% BF on that alone and keep most of my gains.
Eq bloats the hell out of me anywhere pass 500 mg/week

[hosam4ever]

i think 4 monthes is too long period ya man

[Keyser Sozey]

This is what you call a bulk/cut cycle.

An oxymoronic cycle, if you will.

[305GUY]

week 1-16 Test E or Cyp. 750 mg/week
week 1-14 Eq 500 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
week 15-20 Winstrol 75 mg/day
week 17-19 Clen 140 mcg/day
PCT of: HCG , Clomid, and Clen
Nolvadex or Arimidex, depends on how much $ i'll be left with.

Didn't you just come off, or are still on, a long cyce. The cycle sounds great but i would take some timeoff.

[smokethedays]

i think 4 monthes is too long period ya man

i've done 8 months before

[smokethedays]

Didn't you just come off, or are still on, a long cyce. The cycle sounds great but i would take some timeoff.

i'm off now (1 week only) going back in feb.

[Keyser Sozey]

i've done 8 months before

Do you recall your stats before and after this cycle?
Also, if you wouldn't mind giving me a gist of it's components.
Thx Smoke

[BG]

go with prop then d-bol, better gains.

[smokethedays]

week 1-14 Test Cyp 500mg/week
week 1-12 Deca 400 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
2 weeks after last Test shot PCT and HCG and Clen . for 4 weeks, nothing for 2 weeks
then back on:
week 1-16 Test E 750-800 mg/week
week 1-14 Deca 600 mg/week
week 1-4 D-bol 30 mg/day
week 15-19 Winny 80 mg/day
week 16-19 Clen 120 mcg/day
total gains 35-40 lbs
lean gains after bringing BF from 13% to 8-9 % is about 18-20 lbs

[smokethedays]

i started with 185 lbs up to 228 lbs at the end and down with Winny and Clen to 207 lbs

[Smak]

i'm off now (1 week only) going back in feb.

Sweet. Nice Avatar!

[smokethedays]

Sweet. Nice Avatar!

just for u my luv

j/k

[TheMudMan]

i've done winny up to 80 mg/day.
i usually end my cycle with Clen and Winny alone, and lose about 3-4% BF on that alone and keep most of my gains.
Eq bloats the hell out of me anywhere pass 500 mg/week

You still need to adjust the winny so that your start PCT when the test has has left your system.

[WildCh1ld]

just for u my luv

j/k

Oh the love on AR...

[WildCh1ld]

By the way awesome cycle

[smokethedays]

You still need to adjust the winny so that your start PCT when the test has has left your system.

the thing is i like runnig winny with Clen for a bout 3 weeks alone, after the Test is off, it does really good job.
i tried it my self, it preserves most of the size and cut some fat off.

[smokethedays]

By the way awesome cycle

thanx bro.

[smokethedays]

You still need to adjust the winny so that your start PCT when the test has has left your system.

that's wt i did in my last cycle and it worked very well.
check my before and after pics and let me know wt do u think
My Before And After Cutting Pics!! Critique plz.

[TheMudMan]

It's not the winny it's the clen doing this. Also because you are ending the longer estered compounds you are seeing some of the bloat go away. If it works for you then do it but I was just giving you my 2 cents.

[Keyser Sozey]

i started with 185 lbs up to 228 lbs at the end and down with Winny and Clen to 207 lbs

Wow, you kept 20+lbs and you dropped roughly 5%in bf. That's some serious growing bro.
Sheeit, I may try one of them 8 monthers.

[smokethedays]

It's not the winny it's the clen doing this. Also because you are ending the longer estered compounds you are seeing some of the bloat go away. If it works for you then do it but I was just giving you my 2 cents.

thanx much bro, appreciate it. i'll look into ur advice. might give it a shot.
if bad i'm get ur azz. J/k bro. thanx again

[TheMudMan]

that's wt i did in my last cycle and it worked very well.
check my before and after pics and let me know wt do u think
My Before And After Cutting Pics!! Critique plz.

Look good bro........... Like I said I'm just giving you my 2 cents from my experiences.

[smokethedays]

Wow, you kept 20+lbs and you dropped roughly 5%in bf. That's some serious growing bro.
Sheeit, I may try one of them 8 monthers.

keep blood work in check.

[powerliftmike]

Sounds like a heavy and expensive cycle and probably too long, but heh it does look nice.

[Keyser Sozey]

keep blood work in check.

On cycle I get blood work done every 4 weeks, and 4 weeks after i'm done.

[smokethedays]

Sounds like a heavy and expensive cycle and probably too long, but heh it does look nice.

not expensive when the 1ml Test cost .50 cents

[ODC0717]

week 1-14 Test Cyp 500mg/week
week 1-12 Deca 400 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
2 weeks after last Test shot PCT and HCG and Clen . for 4 weeks, nothing for 2 weeks
then back on:
week 1-16 Test E 750-800 mg/week
week 1-14 Deca 600 mg/week
week 1-4 D-bol 30 mg/day
week 15-19 Winny 80 mg/day
week 16-19 Clen 120 mcg/day
total gains 35-40 lbs
lean gains after bringing BF from 13% to 8-9 % is about 18-20 lbs

Did you use HCG before PCT after the 2nd cycle? How long did you run PCT? I'm curious because I've toyed with the idea of long cycles, and was wondering how easy it was to recover. Pics look kick ass bro.

[smokethedays]

there is alot of debate on HCG usage, i always run it with clomid during PCT or alone if i'm bridging.

[smokethedays]

any new opinions?!!