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    Help with Test Prop/Winnny Cycle

    I want to run Test Prop and Winstrol for 8 weeks. My goal is to completely lean up and burn all the fat off.

    Is this an optimal cycle?

    Also, I've read so much on how much to take and when. How much of each should I run and should i inject ED or EOD?

    Also, do I need Clomid Therapy?

    This is my first cycle. All I want to do is cut up. I have chosen Test Prop and Winstrol because it seems to be an effective stack with mild sides.

    Any help would be appreciated...

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    Go to the steroid profile forum. It will tell you what you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2norton
    I want to run Test Prop and Winstrol for 8 weeks. My goal is to completely lean up and burn all the fat off.

    Is this an optimal cycle?

    Also, I've read so much on how much to take and when. How much of each should I run and should i inject ED or EOD?

    Also, do I need Clomid Therapy?

    This is my first cycle. All I want to do is cut up. I have chosen Test Prop and Winstrol because it seems to be an effective stack with mild sides.

    Any help would be appreciated...
    write ur own cycle after doing some research, then posted here and the guys here will help you fixing it up.

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    smoke,

    i looked at your before and afters...very impressive transformation.

    the cycle i am thinking about is

    Test Prop/Winstrol for 8 weeks

    Running 100 mg Test Prop/Winny EOD along with a great diet and cardio 3 times a week for 40 minutes per session

    Is my dosage effective? Is it too much? Should I run Test Prop by its own and then incorporate Winstrol?

    Also, should I run the same amount of both for 8 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2norton
    smoke,

    i looked at your before and afters...very impressive transformation.

    the cycle i am thinking about is

    Test Prop/Winstrol for 8 weeks

    Running 100 mg Test Prop/Winny EOD along with a great diet and cardio 3 times a week for 40 minutes per session

    Is my dosage effective? Is it too much? Should I run Test Prop by its own and then incorporate Winstrol?

    Also, should I run the same amount of both for 8 weeks?
    -you can run the cycle for 8 weeks, I would go for 10,but that's a lot of ED shot for a first cycle.
    -for your first cycle you should run 75mg test prop ed for 8-10 weeks alone. If you feel the need to run the winny also I would run it at 50mg ed for 5 weeks. I would run it weeks 3-8.
    -cardio, I like cardio eod, regarless of cutting or bulking. The only thing tht changes is duration and intensity. I would opt for interval cardio. IMO, it's quick, effective but it will kick your ass.

    Now that that's out of the way I would like to know your stats?

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    why not run ur winny ED at 50mg/day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODC0717
    I would like to know your stats?
    me too

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    and thanks for the compliment

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    i am 5'9" 210lbs...pretty muscular but i need to lose some BULK. i want to lean up!! why run the test prop on its own at first? a friend of mine who has run the cycle i am running told me to run them both at the same time. that way i would maintain some lean muscle mass while cutting up

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    to avoid too much shots of the Winny and the Prop. just drink ur Winny @ 75 Mg, but drink it 2 times a day, morning and night ( 37.5 mg x 2)
    and shoot ur Prop EOD
    week 1-10 Test Prop. 100 mg/EOD
    week 1-10 Winny 75 mg/day (split 2 times)
    cause when u drink winny the half life drops to about 9 hrs instead of 24 hrs for the inj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    to avoid too much shots of the Winny and the Prop. just drink ur Winny @ 75 Mg, but drink it 2 times a day, morning and night ( 37.5 mg x 2)
    and shoot ur Prop EOD
    week 1-10 Test Prop. 100 mg/EOD
    week 1-10 Winny 75 mg/day (split 2 times)
    cause when u drink winny the half life drops to about 9 hrs instead of 24 hrs for the inj.
    wouldn't that be like equal to 50mg ed of prop? I'd either kick it to 150mg eod or go with the 75mg ed. smoke, don't you think that 10 weeks of winny for a first cycle if a bit much?

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    you need to realize that steroids do NOT burn fat, diet and cardio does. Steroids can help preserve muscle mass while trying to drop fat. The reason you should run prop alone your first time is to see how you react to test alone first. When you start throwing in multiple compounds and you start getting sides you wont know what is causing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    you need to realize that steroids do NOT burn fat, diet and cardio does. Steroids can help preserve muscle mass while trying to drop fat. The reason you should run prop alone your first time is to see how you react to test alone first. When you start throwing in multiple compounds and you start getting sides you wont know what is causing them.
    couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODC0717
    wouldn't that be like equal to 50mg ed of prop? I'd either kick it to 150mg eod or go with the 75mg ed. smoke, don't you think that 10 weeks of winny for a first cycle if a bit much?
    i guess ur right, maybe u he should make 8 weeks, sorry. didn't realize it's 1st cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    you need to realize that steroids do NOT burn fat, diet and cardio does. Steroids can help preserve muscle mass while trying to drop fat. The reason you should run prop alone your first time is to see how you react to test alone first. When you start throwing in multiple compounds and you start getting sides you wont know what is causing them.
    agreed on that too, but if i were him, honestly fvck it, i'll just do it.
    i get all waked up when i wanna cycle excuse me bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    i guess ur right, maybe u he should make 8 weeks, sorry. didn't realize it's 1st cycle.
    sal good bro., lookin thick in that avatar, dizamn!

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    thanx bro

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    what kind of results do you achieve from this stack assuming a good diet and proper cardio and weight training?

    my take on it is that i will burn the fat and drop some pounds while preserving some lean muscle...and not bulking up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2norton
    what kind of results do you achieve from this stack assuming a good diet and proper cardio and weight training?

    my take on it is that i will burn the fat and drop some pounds while preserving some lean muscle...and not bulking up.
    for better cutting resulta throw in Clen . during PCT.
    outcomes totally depends on the you bro.

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