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this is my first experience with tren and was looking for a little help setting up my cycle. i was thinking....
wks 1-12 150mg of prop eod
wks 1-10 75mg of tren eod
wks 1-12 nolvadex...not sure how much or often
wks 14- clomid pct
any help you fellas you can lend would be appreciated. i wasnt sure if i was important to run the test longer then fina to help with recovery. let me know any criticisms
I strongly suggest you run the Fina ED at that dose.And drop the prop dose to 100 mgs ED.
The cycle length looks good tho.
~Pinnacle~
Don't forget to include vit b-6 with your tren cycle. (200mg ED)
PCT can start much earlier than you have posted, 3 to 5 days after your last prop shot.
i also would shoot ed and pct for this cycle begins 3 days after ur last prop shot not 2 wks later. run the prop 100mg ed and the tren 50 mg ed. nolva can be between 5-10mg a day.
75 mgs bro...50mgs is for women and children! :dg:Quote:
Originally Posted by edmen2
~Pinnacle~
Do you know what the half-life of Tren is?Quote:
Originally Posted by eGGz
Formate 1.5 days*Quote:
Originally Posted by striker93
Acetate 3 days*
Propionate 2 days*
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days*
Butyrate 6 days*
Valerate 7.5 days*
Hexanoate 9 days*
Caproate 9 days*
Isocaproate 9 days*
Heptanoate 10.5 days*
Enanthate 10.5 days*
Octanoate 12 days*
Cypionate 12 days*
Nonanoate 13.5 days*
Decanoate 15 days*
Undecanoate 16.5 days*
Thanks for the info! If the half-life of tren acetate is 3 days, doesn't that mean by day 6 it should be out of your system? Would Clomid therapy, for tren acetate, start at day 3 or day 6? From what I read, you want to wait until tren acetate is out of your system (day 6).Quote:
Originally Posted by eGGz
Unless you are running tren by itself, it won't matter. Ideally you will run test with the tren and you will run it a week or two longer than the tren. Just base the pct start time on the usual protocols used with test. I.E. 3 days after the last prop shot, 14 days after the last enanthate shot etc. etc,Quote:
Originally Posted by striker93
why would you guys suggest running the fina and prop ed instead of eod? would it hurt my cycle at eod? and lastly what size pins do you guys suggest, i have friends that use 25gauge by 1 inch, is that too small i use 1.5 by 23
These are short ester compounds.So to keep your blood levels stable,ED is best.Quote:
Originally Posted by mactruck42
25g pins are perfect bro.
~Pinnacle~
thanks alot fellas, sounds good. my only other question is how many injection sites are nessecary to have so you dont get and oil absess? how long should you wait between shooting in the same spot?
what does the vit b-6 do in the cycle why is it nessecary?
That's two questions :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by mactruck42
I say a minimum or 4 days before hitting a site again. The longer you can leave an injection site alone before reinjecting it the better. Thats why the more injection sites you have at your disposal the better.
You have tons of injection spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by mactruck42
In each delt you have 3.Anterior head,medial head,posterior head.
Quads,chest,tris and bi's.That more then enough.Try not to hit a site for like 6-7 days.
~Pinnacle~
he was gonna shoot 75mg eod which is 37.5mg per day so 50 ed will be ok in order to see how he tolerates tren. i use 100mg ed and experience no sides but ive heard of bros with nasty side effects at 50mg ed. and mack from what ive heard shootin ed has less side effects than shootin eod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Helps keep prolactin levels in check.Quote:
Originally Posted by mactruck42
~Pinnacle~
You're right.I'm a bad person to ask about doses.I run Fina @ 150 mgs ED.Quote:
Originally Posted by edmen2
~Pinnacle~
B-6 @ 200mg ED will help combat tren induced gyno. As nolva @ 10mg ED will help combat test induced gyno.
im planning the same next cycle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle