Deca D-bol yes or no

**desirico** · 09-04-2005, 07:34 PM

I'm 24 6' 130LBS Iwas thinking about Deca injections and D-bol pills I'm not sure how much or how often I should take them or even if this is a good combination. I just need to gain mass to damm skinny and yes I eat lots (well) and go to the gym

Cheers,

**smokethedays** · 09-04-2005, 07:35 PM

hell no, 6ft and only 130 lbs ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't even think about AAS. keep it natural till u put on some meat.
seriously don't

**MoneyAddyct** · 09-04-2005, 07:36 PM

Do some research bro. All steroid cycles should have test as a base and, more importantly, if you value getting a hard-on, test should ALWAYS be taken with Deca . I haven't used steroids yet, but I've done my research.

**LuckyDragon** · 09-04-2005, 07:36 PM

No for multiple reasons bro

**powerliftmike** · 09-04-2005, 07:47 PM

I know you probably get picked on alot for being skinny, and maybe self-conscious of it, so AASs would seem the answer; but they aren't. Go in the gym and hit the weights hard, but like 2 days a week (if above 3 days a week with your bodytype you will probably loose muscle). Start eating lots of unsaturated fats and proteins. Peanut butter is a well-known food for bulking and it works.

Seriously man, AASs won't even do you good at this point.

**desirico** · 09-04-2005, 09:26 PM

I go to the gym I load up on protein shakes creatine and even eat protein bar while at the gym. I eat 1-2 cans of tuna with vegtables and pasta after the gym, 4eggs for breakfast and usually 2 chicken breasts or stake for dinner. I can't eat peanut butter I dunno what it is some about the smell makes me ghag. I used Nor-andro 19 a few years ago and that helped me gain but I want something more noticble that why I was thinking goin this way does any one have a link to a good thread I can read to get more info??

cheers

**desirico** · 09-04-2005, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by MoneyAddyct

test should ALWAYS be taken with Deca..

What does this exactly mean?

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 09-04-2005, 09:35 PM

he means, a cycle should always have test, there is no substitute for testosterone , best gains are usually found on str8 test. Test/Deca is a good combination depending on your goals..

id also reccomend going to the gym and gaining 20-30 pounds naturally, should be able to with your slimness. *I was 130 pounds at 17, naturally with kre-alkalyn, protien and glutemine i gained 25 pounds in 6 months. *note i am 5'10*

at 6' 130 pounds your probably relitively under-powered, if your really serious, do your research on a Test Enanathate/D-bol stack. This should put on some weight/strength!!!

-ghdt

**desirico** · 09-04-2005, 09:58 PM

thanks I'm gonna read up on that. so stay away from deca for now atleast?

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 09-04-2005, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by desirico

thanks I'm gonna read up on that. so stay away from deca for now atleast?

i woudlnt stay away from it, but its defiently a good product with some sides. Just research it hard and talk to lots of people who have expeirence with deca . Youll figure something out.

-ghdt

**desirico** · 09-04-2005, 10:07 PM

will these things also increase my appitite at all?

**wolfyEVH** · 09-04-2005, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by desirico

I go to the gym I load up on protein shakes creatine and even eat protein bar while at the gym. I eat 1-2 cans of tuna with vegtables and pasta after the gym, 4eggs for breakfast and usually 2 chicken breasts or stake for dinner. I can't eat peanut butter I dunno what it is some about the smell makes me ghag. I used Nor-andro 19 a few years ago and that helped me gain but I want something more noticble that why I was thinking goin this way does any one have a link to a good thread I can read to get more info??

cheers

you need to learn how to eat bro. check out the bulking sticky in the diet forum. 4eggs for breakfast and chicken breasts at dinner is not going to get you big. you need to load up on the carbs, and eat more meals.

stay away from steroids at this point. for at least 1-2 years IMO

**AandF6969** · 09-04-2005, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by desirico

yes I eat lots (well)

Apparently not.

Originally Posted by desirico

will these things also increase my appitite at all?

An appetite is not necessary to eat. Force feeding works wonders for weight gain.

I used to be 135 lbs in high school... then I started researching lifting and EATING and got up to 185 NATURALLY in less than 2 years with no gain in bodyfat, so I know where you're coming from.

You need to count calories. Here is an article I wrote on "hardgainers".

Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!

Good luck bro. If you can't gain weight naturally, steroids won't do anything for you except put on water weight, which you will lose. Your best bet would be to post up your diet and workouts in the appropriate forums for critique.

Just because you "go to the gym" doesn't mean that you're training correctly to get big. I can "go to the gym" and masturbate in the bathroom and I won't gain an ounce.

**Soldier of Misfortune** · 09-04-2005, 11:07 PM

I too was 135, then I started working out and eating with AandF, now im 185 solid. Connection??

**topvega** · 09-04-2005, 11:32 PM

u may think u r eating well, but the fact that u are not making gains naturally says u r not... the gear is not a miracle drug. it will do absolutely nothing 4 u if u don't train hard and the number 1 most important thing... eat right
i was in the same boat. i was 5'10" 130lbs. me and my wife split up and i was devasted. i had 2 directions to go in. 1 was drinking myself into a point of not caring anymore. the other was to do something and better myself. i started hangin round here, not as a member but just a visitor. my goal was to use gear to get big fast. found out pretty quickly that it doesn't work like that. i had always worked out but cld never make any good gains.... thought i ate "right"... then i decided to follow a bulking sticky to the tee. i joined a gym.( i had always worked out at home in the garage) and started "eating" for the first time in my life. it sucked... it still does. the eating is the hardest thing for me, but i went from 130lbs in feb to 165lbs by the end of may... with no gear.(even though people swore i was on " roids") it was alot of good muscle, i never got "fat". i kept vascularity, and my muscles looked hard. the only thing i lost was my 6 pak, but not all the paks... went from 6 to a 4 pak. in june i took the plunge and started my cycle at 165lbs. yeah i shld have waited longer but i didn't. i m currently in week 12 of my 15 week cycle and am at 190lbs. my 6pak that became a 4 pak is down to a 2 pak, but i am hoping that after pct i will be at 180lbs cut... which wld b 50 lbs of muscle gained in 8 months..
the moral of my long winded story is... u need to learn how to really eat b4 u use gear... and u need to have a base to work with to add that muscle to...

**ODC0717** · 09-04-2005, 11:35 PM

you've still got a lot of growing to do bro. diet is key. without that, there is no fuel for the fire. Ya dig? Hit the weight hard and eat for a few lbs, keep researching on AAS so you can build your knowledge of them so when you do decide to use them, you will do so properly and will also have a good foundation to build off of.

**chest6** · 09-05-2005, 01:09 AM

ooo...i love these posts..but i love them in person better..
get to 185 or so..train naturally for as long as possible

**hellapimpin** · 09-05-2005, 01:19 AM

6ft 130..wow!! your skinny man!! Eat like a horse. start eating 4000 cals a day with atleast 200grms of protein and 200grms of carbs. and work out!!!!!!

**chest6** · 09-05-2005, 01:30 AM

my gf is bigger than that and she is 13% bf..damn

**bigJJ** · 09-05-2005, 01:44 AM

Don't overtrain. With your body type, it may cost you some size. 2 - 3 days per week.

Aim to eat clean, but pretty well eat everything in sight. Lean meats, fresh veggies, brown rice, fish, protien powder, weight gainer powder, repeat. Milk is also a high protein food that can help you gain weight, provided that you can digest it well. At this point, I suspect the diet forum will be more useful to you than AAS.

**New Gear Head** · 09-05-2005, 01:59 AM

If youre doing cardio cut it back

**New Gear Head** · 09-05-2005, 02:00 AM

Had similar prob in college, I ate till I was sick.Stick to natural just as the peeps have said until you bulk on 20-30lbs

**New Gear Head** · 09-05-2005, 02:02 AM

I'm 6'3 didn't start till I was about 210,was 170 before that.

**AandF6969** · 09-05-2005, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by hellapimpin

6ft 130..wow!! your skinny man!! Eat like a horse. start eating 4000 cals a day with atleast 200grms of protein and 200grms of carbs. and work out!!!!!!

He needs to get a lot more protein and carbs than that bro... 200 of each is only 1600 cals, meaning he'd have to get over 250g fat to reach 4000 cals.

For comparison's sake, I've been getting 150g carbs and 75g protein in my PWO shake.

**oliver2828** · 09-06-2005, 06:53 AM

Yeah dude i would atleast gain 50lbs naturally before jumping on the juice. Start getting a real solid diet and go buy some weight gainer and take it before you sleep. Good luck