natural test shut down?

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-05-2005, 10:01 AM

I'm so confused about last nite... I"m on Test E 500mg week. and i'm into my 5th wk and i lost all sex drive last nite? the lady wasnt like pamela but what in the world? haha So my question is when does your natural test start to shut down with test e?

**edmen2** · 09-05-2005, 10:06 AM

how good is ur source? u should not be shutdown while on test.

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-05-2005, 10:07 AM

source is fine, i've gained PLENTY on this so far. I had no turn on to this lady at all haha might have been it. Just needed the screw haha it also was 5 in the morning

**marcus300** · 09-05-2005, 10:10 AM

you should be fine while on gear, cant see why you would shut down on the 5th week into a stack,,,,find a better looking one next time or take viagra

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-05-2005, 10:20 AM

sweet just a bad nite haha thanks for confirming what i thought. later bros

**edmen2** · 09-05-2005, 10:22 AM

im not saying ur gear is fake but instead of test he may have sent deca or something like that.

**symatech** · 09-05-2005, 10:23 AM

well all aas will shut you down, including test. It's just that since you are replacing natural test with synthetic you don't usually show symptoms while on. Don't fall into the mistake thinking that exogenous test will not shut you down b/c it's untrue.

As for your sex drive, the answer is that everybody is different. Test kills my libido completely, I mean I can be on 800mg-1g test/week and be limp. But things like tren and dbol make me a wild man in the sack. So these affect us all differently. Just because you lost your libido doesn't mean your test is fake.

**edmen2** · 09-05-2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by symatech

well all aas will shut you down, including test. It's just that since you are replacing natural test with synthetic you don't usually show symptoms while on. Don't fall into the mistake thinking that exogenous test will not shut you down b/c it's untrue.

As for your sex drive, the answer is that everybody is different. Test kills my libido completely, I mean I can be on 800mg-1g test/week and be limp. But things like tren and dbol make me a wild man in the sack. So these affect us all differently. Just because you lost your libido doesn't mean your test is fake.

i have a bro that is the same way but since it is not with the norm i would first question my source.

**mister.fantastic** · 09-05-2005, 03:59 PM

i think its just the girl you were with bro..

**Unoid** · 09-05-2005, 07:22 PM

remember that it could be your anti-E's that are causing lack of sexdrive.

Letro or another estrogen/progesterone inhibitor at a highe nough dose will kill your sex drive , you're body needs estrogen.

with nolva you shouldn't be having much of a problem even at 60mgED

**Wildcatbadass** · 09-05-2005, 08:47 PM

not running any anti-e's.

***G-1000*** · 09-05-2005, 08:52 PM

it's in your head. you should not loss drive when on test. test is the hormon that give you sex drive.

**bignbald02** · 09-05-2005, 09:18 PM

test makes me a horny mofro. hell, it almost feels like im injecting viagra lol. especialy prop since it works so fast

**Papi93** · 09-05-2005, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by symatech

well all aas will shut you down, including test. It's just that since you are replacing natural test with synthetic you don't usually show symptoms while on. Don't fall into the mistake thinking that exogenous test will not shut you down b/c it's untrue.

As for your sex drive, the answer is that everybody is different. Test kills my libido completely, I mean I can be on 800mg-1g test/week and be limp. But things like tren and dbol make me a wild man in the sack. So these affect us all differently. Just because you lost your libido doesn't mean your test is fake.

The majority of members say to run test with every cycle. If a person doesn't respond to test (libido-wise) would you ever consider leaving it out of a cycle? Thanks for you input!

**topvega** · 09-05-2005, 09:27 PM

test makes me so horny that even ugly girls look fukable... she wld have to be a complete and utter pig to not put a helmet on my soldier and send him into battle... and even then i wld still take a blowjob..

**symatech** · 09-05-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by striker93

The majority of members say to run test with every cycle. If a person doesn't respond to test (libido-wise) would you ever consider leaving it out of a cycle? Thanks for you input!

It really depends on what the cycle would look like. I wouldn't run any 19-nor without test, but I've experimented with all kinds of things without using test and never had a problem. Recovery has always been just as fast as with test in a cycle, and libido has rarely suffered. That's me, the only way to know for yourself would be to try it out.

**Tazwell** · 09-06-2005, 12:09 AM

test is what makes a man, the person he is.. it influences nearly every aspect of his actions..

you start taking artificiall test you might not like the things you liked before, including fat bxtches.

**stupidhippo** · 09-06-2005, 12:13 AM

Test makes me insanely horny at the beginning... Then it evens out a bit..

**Ntpadude** · 09-06-2005, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Wildcatbadass

I'm so confused about last nite... I"m on Test E 500mg week. and i'm into my 5th wk and i lost all sex drive last nite? the lady wasnt like pamela but what in the world? haha So my question is when does your natural test start to shut down with test e?

Me and some buddies that do test together noticed something. When we do enanathate, we got killer sex drives.. when we do testosterone cypionate , the libido drops down to crap. The signs of growth or whatever are the same like there is nothing wrong with the test in the cypionate which everytime came from the same manufacturer. For some reason for me and other guy's experiences, testosterone enanthate gives you a much better sex drive then testosterone cypionate. The closest explanation for this was one doctor's speculation that cypionate tends to aromatase more estrogen and less DHT then enanthate , where enanthate does the opposite, making less estrogens and more DHT (which will make you super horny guaranteed, its super testosterone so to speak). Some guys prefer the cypionate because its easier on hair loss, cypionate makes actually almost NO DHT, enanthate makes less DHT then prop, sust or even the androgels, but it makes much more of it then cypionate. Some males are very dependant on DHT to have a good sex drive those guys will have problems with cypionate. These guys are the ones that respond better to androgel treatments then testosterone cypionate therapy or a combination of both when in HRT.

On the other hand 2 steroids cause profoundly high levels of DHT, one steroid actually IS DHT. Anadrol is essentially oral DHT, no conversion needed and having a high sex drive and very intense orgasms are common when using this, but dbols has an extremely high aromatisation rate to DHT as well.

Other things like tongkat ali also substantially increases generation of DHT on or off steroids which explains partially how it works so well.

**FlyByU** · 09-06-2005, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Me and some buddies that do test together noticed something. When we do enanathate, we got killer sex drives.. when we do testosterone cypionate , the libido drops down to crap. The signs of growth or whatever are the same like there is nothing wrong with the test in the cypionate which everytime came from the same manufacturer. For some reason for me and other guy's experiences, testosterone enanthate gives you a much better sex drive then testosterone cypionate. The closest explanation for this was one doctor's speculation that cypionate tends to aromatase more estrogen and less DHT then enanthate , where enanthate does the opposite, making less estrogens and more DHT (which will make you super horny guaranteed, its super testosterone so to speak). Some guys prefer the cypionate because its easier on hair loss, cypionate makes actually almost NO DHT, enanthate makes less DHT then prop, sust or even the androgels, but it makes much more of it then cypionate. Some males are very dependant on DHT to have a good sex drive those guys will have problems with cypionate. These guys are the ones that respond better to androgel treatments then testosterone cypionate therapy or a combination of both when in HRT.

On the other hand 2 steroids cause profoundly high levels of DHT, one steroid actually IS DHT. Anadrol is essentially oral DHT, no conversion needed and having a high sex drive and very intense orgasms are common when using this, but dbols has an extremely high aromatisation rate to DHT as well.

Other things like tongkat ali also substantially increases generation of DHT on or off steroids which explains partially how it works so well.

Excellent post. So tongkat ali can potentially expedite male pattern baldness...

**spiderman405** · 09-17-2005, 03:22 AM

I have done several cycles over about 12 years and had a question. I have always used test enanthate as my test. I would do 500 mg per week and my sex drive would be through the roof at around the 3rd week. Well this is my second time using proprionate at 100 mg eod. My gains are there. I know it is legit stuff. And my sex drive goes up in about 7 days. But the gains aren't as good and my sex drive sucks. I know that enanthate has a much longer half life and the mg's build up alot higher but the prop delivers more test on a 24hr day I thought. Anyway my sex drive went up around day 7 and stayed good for about a week later and now it has gone down down down. Has anybody ever experienced that prop sex drive and gains are not near as good as enanthate? I am more concerned about my sex drive. I am going to get some enathate agains asap!

**dirtyvegas** · 09-17-2005, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Me and some buddies that do test together noticed something. When we do enanathate, we got killer sex drives.. when we do testosterone cypionate , the libido drops down to crap. The signs of growth or whatever are the same like there is nothing wrong with the test in the cypionate which everytime came from the same manufacturer. For some reason for me and other guy's experiences, testosterone enanthate gives you a much better sex drive then testosterone cypionate. The closest explanation for this was one doctor's speculation that cypionate tends to aromatase more estrogen and less DHT then enanthate , where enanthate does the opposite, making less estrogens and more DHT (which will make you super horny guaranteed, its super testosterone so to speak). Some guys prefer the cypionate because its easier on hair loss, cypionate makes actually almost NO DHT, enanthate makes less DHT then prop, sust or even the androgels, but it makes much more of it then cypionate. Some males are very dependant on DHT to have a good sex drive those guys will have problems with cypionate. These guys are the ones that respond better to androgel treatments then testosterone cypionate therapy or a combination of both when in HRT.

On the other hand 2 steroids cause profoundly high levels of DHT, one steroid actually IS DHT. Anadrol is essentially oral DHT, no conversion needed and having a high sex drive and very intense orgasms are common when using this, but dbols has an extremely high aromatisation rate to DHT as well.

Other things like tongkat ali also substantially increases generation of DHT on or off steroids which explains partially how it works so well.

goode read,interesting..
dv

**rager** · 09-17-2005, 05:44 AM

Yea I agree with E being ten times better for the sex drive. For some reason Prop can actually lower it?

**RobbieG** · 04-19-2006, 08:53 PM

bumb!

interesting!

**SMAN12b** · 04-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by bignbald02

test makes me a horny mofro. hell, it almost feels like im injecting viagra lol. especialy prop since it works so fast

Speaking of Viagra,

what would the effect be on the heart and blood pressure if it is taken once or twice while on AAS??? Just curious. I have some for shits and giggles but hadn't thought of the what if's while on AAS.

Thanks

***BajanBastard*** · 04-19-2006, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Me and some buddies that do test together noticed something. When we do enanathate, we got killer sex drives.. when we do testosterone cypionate , the libido drops down to crap. The signs of growth or whatever are the same like there is nothing wrong with the test in the cypionate which everytime came from the same manufacturer. For some reason for me and other guy's experiences, testosterone enanthate gives you a much better sex drive then testosterone cypionate. The closest explanation for this was one doctor's speculation that cypionate tends to aromatase more estrogen and less DHT then enanthate , where enanthate does the opposite, making less estrogens and more DHT (which will make you super horny guaranteed, its super testosterone so to speak). Some guys prefer the cypionate because its easier on hair loss, cypionate makes actually almost NO DHT, enanthate makes less DHT then prop, sust or even the androgels, but it makes much more of it then cypionate. Some males are very dependant on DHT to have a good sex drive those guys will have problems with cypionate. These guys are the ones that respond better to androgel treatments then testosterone cypionate therapy or a combination of both when in HRT.

On the other hand 2 steroids cause profoundly high levels of DHT, one steroid actually IS DHT. Anadrol is essentially oral DHT, no conversion needed and having a high sex drive and very intense orgasms are common when using this, but dbols has an extremely high aromatisation rate to DHT as well.

Other things like tongkat ali also substantially increases generation of DHT on or off steroids which explains partially how it works so well.

Well that was a load of shit.

***Doc.Sust*** · 04-19-2006, 10:22 PM

hahahaha!

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Well that was a load of shit.

**vitor** · 04-19-2006, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Me and some buddies that do test together noticed something. When we do enanathate, we got killer sex drives.. when we do testosterone cypionate , the libido drops down to crap. The signs of growth or whatever are the same like there is nothing wrong with the test in the cypionate which everytime came from the same manufacturer. For some reason for me and other guy's experiences, testosterone enanthate gives you a much better sex drive then testosterone cypionate. The closest explanation for this was one doctor's speculation that cypionate tends to aromatase more estrogen and less DHT then enanthate , where enanthate does the opposite, making less estrogens and more DHT (which will make you super horny guaranteed, its super testosterone so to speak). Some guys prefer the cypionate because its easier on hair loss, cypionate makes actually almost NO DHT, enanthate makes less DHT then prop, sust or even the androgels, but it makes much more of it then cypionate. Some males are very dependant on DHT to have a good sex drive those guys will have problems with cypionate. These guys are the ones that respond better to androgel treatments then testosterone cypionate therapy or a combination of both when in HRT.

On the other hand 2 steroids cause profoundly high levels of DHT, one steroid actually IS DHT. Anadrol is essentially oral DHT, no conversion needed and having a high sex drive and very intense orgasms are common when using this, but dbols has an extremely high aromatisation rate to DHT as well.

Other things like tongkat ali also substantially increases generation of DHT on or off steroids which explains partially how it works so well.

This is the biggest load of crap Ive heard for a while!!!

D-bol doesnt aromatase to DHT, at any dose, period(none of the synthetics do, only Testosterone). Anadrol is actually DHT?? Oh my...

***BajanBastard*** · 04-19-2006, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

This is the biggest load of crap Ive heard for a while!!!

D-bol doesnt aromatase to DHT, at any dose, period(none of the synthetics do, only Testosterone). Anadrol is actually DHT?? Oh my...

When i read it i had to go get some BP meds. You should see his other gems.