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  1. 09-08-2005, 06:02 PM #1
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    dbol-clen-nolva-proviron

    i know this isnt the smartest cycle, but im just returning from back surgery, ive lost 27 pounds and gained fat. i need to lose fat 1st, but need to add a little muscle for motivation. the dbol just to motivate me a little,already have signs of gyno from previous cycle(nolva,pro) and clen to shed alittle fat. is all these orals at same time bad. test is not available, i know thats everyones suggestion but please give other advice besides telling me to use test
    i dont mean to sound ungreatful or be an ass,but your advice is needed
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  2. 09-08-2005, 07:01 PM #2
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    bump
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  3. 09-08-2005, 07:05 PM #3
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    well ur not gonna keep any muscle u put on w/ dbol b/c most of tha gains are water weight, dbol is mainly to jump start a cycle, not for quick muscle gain
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    there's no way you can get some test?
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    jus go wit it then...if you cant get anything else.
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  6. 09-08-2005, 07:34 PM #6
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    finally a little feedback THANKS, more would be helpful especially if any one has experienced similar cycle before
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
    jus go wit it then...if you cant get anything else.
    id personally leave tha d-bol out, u can gain muscle later

    cheap steroid =cheap gains, u need test w/ dbol or it is useless unless used properly which i have no clue how (ask arnold)
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  8. 09-08-2005, 07:40 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by pike1237
    i know this isnt the smartest cycle, but im just returning from back surgery, ive lost 27 pounds and gained fat. i need to lose fat 1st, but need to add a little muscle for motivation. the dbol just to motivate me a little,already have signs of gyno from previous cycle(nolva,pro) and clen to shed alittle fat. is all these orals at same time bad. test is not available, i know thats everyones suggestion but please give other advice besides telling me to use test
    i dont mean to sound ungreatful or be an ass,but your advice is needed
    you could do a syno conversion to get some test prop. cheap, effective and avaliable to everyone. Other then that, if all that you havae avaliable is what you got, then go with it. Hopefully the proviron and nolva will help keep some of the water off ya with the dbol. Clen will help with the fat loss, but you diet needs to be in check. Without you diet in check, there's no reason to run your given protocol.
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  9. 09-10-2005, 09:43 AM #9
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    can add winny also if that would be beneficial
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