I want to know what your best cycle is, for getting quality gains, keeping gains, and staying lean( some water retention is ok, but not a lot).
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I want to know what your best cycle is, for getting quality gains, keeping gains, and staying lean( some water retention is ok, but not a lot).
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come on guys, just want to know cycle you have liked the best
Drol, t enan and tren. Huge gains, strength and pumps.
Personally my fave was deca,sust, drol and halo, but obvs there was quite a lot of bloat, but i gained a stupid amount of size, coz i had my diet and training sorted and it was my first hard cycle.
I would like to stay away from androl, if possible. So what else do you think?
prop, drol, igf, irianian test enth (w00t love their test) and eq....
bull spunk! lol just kiddin, the ones that are best are normally the ones with which you put the least amount of weight on, eg winni, anavar, eq, tren, prop, no water = no false weight (as i call it) with the ones ive said its normally a case of what you gain you will keep 90% of the time, a disciplined (spelin) PCT is the key to keepin gains and 100% focus on diet
nowhere near ready to start using drol, but from what i've read and heard, it produces very good gains. my problem would be too much is lost when the cycle is discountinued and therefore would be smarter to just use a safer drug with more retainable gains? seems to me that the toxicity levels alone would tend to turn people towards a slightly less violent drug, tren possibly.
I second that man, drol is not worth the risk for me, and I also want ot keep my gains.Quote:
Originally Posted by vein-x
I'm curious.What risk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
~Pinnacle~
test-E and tren did wonders for me. I managed to keep 12 pounds.
12 weeks of Prop and Tren, and the last 6 weeks throw some Winny in @ 50mgs/Day; clean gains, ridiculous vascularity and even more insane pumps. That's my favorite cycle------- hands down!
I am running Prop and Var right now, but personally I am unimpressed with the Var., even @ 80mgs/day (I am in my sixth week).
sustanon250, dbol, and deca. love it and cycle it often.
prop/tren/winny
I have been told that androl has harsh sides, you retain a lot of water, and losse most of your gains. That is why drol is not for me. Correct me if I am wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
test tren eq and var,that is my next cycle,my friend is 4 weeks into a var only course the same as wat i have and he has put 7lb on and lost fat,cant wait!! :wg:
I was simply asking you what your fears were.That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
I do suggest you stick to simple,mild drugs.Stay away from androgens.It doesn't sound like they're for you.No Fina,Drol,Halo,Winny,Masteron and even Dbol for that matter. Why play Russian Roullette with your body when all's your trying to do is enhance your physique.Stay with Test,EQ,Anavar.Those are the least risky.You can walk away after a few cycles without fear of any damage.
~Pinnacle~
i did 750 test enth
50mg dbol
40mg anavar I know not to do both at the same time..
but the strength gains that i achieved while one.. pushed me way past the weights that i was doing..
so was it worth it??? probably not...
Currently running 3iu gh
500mg test enth
I really like the results i am getting..
as in lean mass, with no back pumps.. great attitude, and gaining weight, and losing fat..
so depends on what you want..
How is this for a cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Weeks 1-3 D-bol
Weeks 1-12 EQ
Weeks 1-14 Sust
Weeks 10-15 Anavar
I think that this will give me the results I want, what are your thoughts Pinnacle? What are everyone elses thoughts?
Leave the Dbol out.It's a mild version of Drol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
WK 1-14 Sust 500 mgs wkly
Wk 1-14 EQ 500 mgs wkly
WK 10-17 Var 40 mgs ED
Start PCT day after last Var dose.
~Pinnacle~
***You can actually put Var in the beginning as well from Wk 1-6***
i wouldnt leave the dbol out.......but i love the stuff so i'm a bit biased.
Will I get the same gains from this as my cycle listed above ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
AND THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR INPUT, YOU HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP.
You'll most likely do better with this.Not much water retention,just lean quality mass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
~Pinnacle~
How much should I expect to gain from this cycle, and how much of it will I keep? Just estimations of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
If it's your first cycle.You'll put on 18-22 lbs.You'll keep 13-15 .Diet depending,of course.If it's you second cycle or so.Look to keep 8-11 lbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
~Pinnacle~
Test E, EQ, DBOL,Winny, prop,andriol and HGH awasome gainsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pimp_C
My first cycle with sust 500mgs ew + 200mgs cyp with deca thrown around in there somewhere.....20lb physique change....lots of stretch marks at the top of pits though....I can still see them....Young and dumb at 22 years old.... Shitty cycle now that I look at it. It was my first real cycle and that is always the one that sticks out in your head. Like getting laid for the first time....I was a cocky little bastard on that one too...I should of got my ass kicked more than a few times....
I did the following:
1-13 Test E/500mg/wk
1-12 EQ/400mg/wk
Pheedno's PCT.
I gained 20 lbs and have been off for 8 weeks and have only dropped 1 pound (probly due to diet). I am real pleased with my results and would recommend it. You also want to have a good diet. The diet is definitely important to gains. Eat clean and eat enough calories and you won't have any problems.
Oh, that looks like a nice cycle Massf....
Im planning my next cycle to look like this
Test e 750mg week
EQ 400 mg week
PCT
And maybe som dbol to kickstart
test prop., tren a, eq, var, clen, nolva(thru whole cycle), pct clomid. trying to cut the Hell up!!!
Thanks Testo^. I am going to run the same cycle again, but do like you are and add some dbol for the first 4 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Testo^