What AASs provide high strength gains without bodyweight gains?

**powerliftmike** · 09-12-2005, 05:50 PM

I am not going to use winstrol so dont mention that. I dont think var works for me either. Dbol gives me really good strength gains, but usually kicks me up another weight class.

Any suggestions?

**longhorn814** · 09-12-2005, 05:51 PM

tren , but you need to run it with some sort of test

**bignatt** · 09-12-2005, 05:58 PM

Halotestin , EQ

**TheMudMan** · 09-12-2005, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

Halotestin, EQ

I agree with halo............ not so much on EQ

**J.S.N.** · 09-12-2005, 06:05 PM

halo is exactly what you're looking for. i have had the good fortune to run test and halo, and test and tren , and halo's strength gains are more explosive. for me. plus when you're on, the bar just jumps it's crazy.

**Jsik98** · 09-12-2005, 06:07 PM

Well, I think it really depends on your diet. I am finishing a sust/deca cycle and due to my moderate caloric intake I was able to make good strength gains and really tweak some definition w/out blowing up or getting bloated!

**TheMudMan** · 09-12-2005, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jsik98

Well, I think it really depends on your diet. I am finishing a sust/deca cycle and due to my moderate caloric intake I was able to make good strength gains and really tweak some definition w/out blowing up or getting bloated!

If you have never ran d-bol, drol, halo........... then there's no comparison. But you are correct with good diet and the compounds you mentioned you will see good strength gains. Also, for most deca is going to put some weight on and he's not looking for that.

**Seattle Junk** · 09-12-2005, 06:29 PM

tren , halo or test suspension

**DLK** · 09-12-2005, 07:21 PM

What exactly is drol?

**ARIV3184** · 09-12-2005, 07:25 PM

anadrol

**powerliftmike** · 09-12-2005, 07:43 PM

haha, i dont think i will taking drol bro. :-P

**Jack Rabbit Slim** · 09-12-2005, 07:45 PM

Anavar , i heard made you strong as a ox....never took it yet though.

**Pinnacle** · 09-12-2005, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

haha, i dont think i will taking drol bro. :-P

I'll chime in and second everyone that said Halo.You have to try it at least once to see the incredible strength gains that are produced.Does absolutley nothing for size.No water retention either.You stay nice and dry.

~Pinnacle~

**powerliftmike** · 09-12-2005, 07:48 PM

It didnt do anything for me, besides make me sleepy and GI pressure. Maybe it will help in a stack with test. Its so mild tho, i dont think it would do much even then.

**powerliftmike** · 09-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I am going to look for more info and sources for halo.

**alo5603** · 09-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Halo all the way, one of my favorites......... incredible strength gains, just like drol but without the bloat.

alo

**Ejuicer** · 09-12-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Rabbit Slim

Anavar, i heard made you strong as a ox....never took it yet though.

Not so much, decent but nothing huge. Drol best for strength gains but the weight packs on in a hurry. Tren is great for strength while keeping the weight a little lower.

**powerliftmike** · 09-12-2005, 09:19 PM

Cool. I am thinking about drol in a future cycle actually. I dont think ill ever use var again, it just doesnt do much aside from bad gas. I never understand why such enthusiasm associated with var as its so mild; but i guess thats the appeal. Still it doesnt seem to work well.

**FlyByU** · 09-12-2005, 11:24 PM

Definitely halo. Btw, has anyone here tried IP halo sublinguals? If so, what did you think. Obviously the sublingual form cuts down on the liver toxicity, but I'd be interested to know how effective this form of halo is.

**J.S.N.** · 09-12-2005, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

tren , halo or test suspension

everyone i know who's some suspension says it bloats the **** outta you and makes you gain eight incredibly fast.

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

It didnt do anything for me, besides make me sleepy and GI pressure. Maybe it will help in a stack with test. Its so mild tho, i dont think it would do much even then.

are you talking about var? just in case you were thinking of halo, it's one of the most toxic roids out there.

**Tren Bull** · 09-12-2005, 11:29 PM

Tren /Test prop will give you great strength gains, even if your trying to cut and eating an appropriate diet you will still get rock hard without gaining too much mass

**stayinstacked** · 09-12-2005, 11:31 PM

Halo,tren

**nikos11** · 09-13-2005, 09:35 PM

sory what is "test" ( i french) and tren
I read that the best combination was anavar + halo

**Pinnacle** · 09-13-2005, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by nikos11

sory what is "test" ( i french) and tren
I read that the best combination was anavar + halo

Test= Testosterone

Tren=Trenbolone

"I read that the best combination was anavar + halo"Do yourself a favor and keep reading.

~Pinnacle~

**doghunter** · 09-13-2005, 09:52 PM

low test and tren combo i run my just the backwards and it blows up but to each there own i run just enough test like 250wk and tren at 200mg ed and it has given up extreme power and not so much size but tons of power and aggression and i know everyone has read that test should be higher than tren fact is alot of what i read here is not true for me any others i know

**Unoid** · 09-13-2005, 10:38 PM

masteron should help, it acts a lot like an androgen even tho its androgen rating is low.

**Tedbear981** · 09-14-2005, 12:35 AM

A Bro of mine was on Halo for like 4 weeks, he had to stop he got like 10 nosebleeds a day! The only halo I stick to is Xbox

**Pimp_C** · 09-14-2005, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

I am not going to use winstrol so dont mention that. I dont think var works for me either. Dbol gives me really good strength gains, but usually kicks me up another weight class.

Any suggestions?