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    My next cycle...what do you think?

    hey guys...i'm in the middle of my current cycle (week 6 of 10...sust@500mg/week & dbol @30mg/day first 4 weeks). i've been packing on some great size and strength. now i'm planning my next cycle. my current cycle is #4 + 2 var only cycles i did in the begining as a newbie.

    now i'm looking at tren E. thinking about this for the winter:

    week 1 to 8 or 10 = 400mg/week tren E (length depending on sides)
    week 1 to 4 = 60mg/day var
    PCT = 2 weeks after last shot of tren

    Note: i'm not taking any test with it cause i wanna see how by body reacts to the tren on it's own. and i don't wanna take tren ace because the inject schedule just doesn't work for me

    My goals are strictly for cutting...dropping BF, hardening up and adding as much LBM as possible.

    What do you guys think? is 400mg tren E too high for my first time using it? should i drop it to 300 or 350? what about the var dose? i've never gone above 40mg/day. anybody ever done a similar cycle?

    any advise, changes or criticism will be greatly apprciated.

    TG

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    i recommend u using some test. tren will shut you down really bad if youre not running test. You dont wanna ruin the boys and have "Limp Lenny" issues. I am running tren a for the first time( which is ed shot), at 50mg ed. so 350 per week is kool for newbie. and var dosage is good at 60mg
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    sorry bro dont know much about tren , it scares me....lol. How did your previous anavar cycles go, how much weight did you gain? and whats your height and weight.

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    Here's my cutting cycle:
    weeks 1-12 test prop. 75 mg ed
    weeks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew
    weeks 1-10 tren a 50mg ed
    weeks 6-12 Var 45mg ed
    weeks 1-10 B-6 200mg ed
    weeks 1-12 Nolva 20mg ed
    pct clomid 4 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    How did your previous anavar cycles go, how much weight did you gain? and whats your height and weight.
    i'm currently 5'-8"@196# and approx 12%BF

    well...my var only cycles which were my first were about 3 years ago. i had been lifting for about 3 or 4 years at the time. 1st run was @30mg/day for 5 weeks and 2nd run was @40mg/day for 5 weeks. both times i toned up, put on minimal weight but got strong as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    Here's my cutting cycle:
    weeks 1-12 test prop. 75 mg ed
    weeks 1-12 EQ 600mg ew
    weeks 1-10 tren a 50mg ed
    weeks 6-12 Var 45mg ed
    weeks 1-10 B-6 200mg ed
    weeks 1-12 Nolva 20mg ed
    pct clomid 4 weeks
    see...now i'm thinking maybe i should throw in the var at the end of the cycle until the day before PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBOGREEK
    see...now i'm thinking maybe i should throw in the var at the end of the cycle until the day before PCT
    hmmmm...now you guys have me thinking. another possibility mught be to get some tbol too and run something like this:

    week 1 to 10 = tren E@350mg/week
    week 1 to 6 = tbol@60mg/day
    week 7 to 12 = var@60mg/day
    liver protectants the whole time (LIV-52)
    PCT starting week 13 (day after last var intake)

    OR

    week 1 to 10 = tren E@350mg/week
    week 1 to 12 = var@60mg/day
    liver protectants the whole time (LIV-52)
    PCT starting week 13 (day after last var intake)


    any other feedback guys?

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    You Need Test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    you should take a rest after your current cycle time on equals time off make sure all your levels go back to normal before jumping into another cycle and I agree you should use test

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    so...what are you guys trying to say? i need test?

    i know i should probably take test with that cycle and i probably will through it in...but has anybody tried what i'm talking about with out the test? just curious at this point.

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    add test... otherwise you will be wishing you had...

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    testosterona!!!!!!! who wants no test unless

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    Add Proponiate for the duration of the Tren . End it two week after tren and then start PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Add Proponiate for the duration of the Tren. End it two week after tren and then start PCT.
    actually...i'll probably go with a long ester like enanthate or cyp and hit some orals as mentioned above for the last few weeks until PCT.

    thanks for the responses guys!

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