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    pro-cycle critique, NEED MORE BULK

    heres my cycle 4-5ius of gh for the last 6 monthes, im going for another 6 monthes
    heres the juice im on
    1-20 test enanthate 750mg a week
    1-20 winny 200mg a week
    1-5 60mcg of igf-1
    1-7 400mg of tren week
    13-20 400mg of tren a week
    7-13 50mg a day of dbol , finshed
    10-15 masteron 400mg a week
    20mg a day of nolva

    im 5'11 242 19inch arms 33inch waist, 50 inch chest, 8-9% bodyfat age 22
    and im doin 4 ius of serostim 5/2....im really ripped and big, but need alot more bulk, What should i Use, im switching to cyp now, 1000mg a week, also im on week 13 right now, So i need some advice on bulking drugs, I want like another 20lbs

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    my shows in june

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    Why masteron in the middle of a cycle?


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    You shouldn't run that cycle bro. You are going to get jaudice. I mean winny for 20 weeks?!?! Tren for 14 weeks total and dbol for like 6 weeks?!?!

    I think you need to re-evaluated how much this contest means to you (more important than your health?) and shorten you cycle and remove the winny and cut way back on the tren and dbol.

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    i go for blood tests, liver values are slightly high very slight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Why masteron in the middle of a cycle?


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    cause it was free LOL

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    im off dbols for a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanPerfection1
    heres my cycle 4-5ius of gh for the last 6 monthes, im going for another 6 monthes
    heres the juice im on
    1-20 test enanthate 750mg a week
    1-20 winny 200mg a week
    1-5 60mcg of igf-1
    1-7 400mg of tren week
    13-20 400mg of tren a week
    7-13 50mg a day of dbol , finshed
    10-15 masteron 400mg a week
    20mg a day of nolva

    im 5'11 242 19inch arms 33inch waist, 50 inch chest, 8-9% bodyfat age 22
    and im doin 4 ius of serostim 5/2....im really ripped and big, but need alot more bulk, What should i Use, im switching to cyp now, 1000mg a week, also im on week 13 right now, So i need some advice on bulking drugs, I want like another 20lbs
    I thought doing winny injectable/tab any longer than 10 weeks would be killer on the liver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    I thought doing winny injectable/tab any longer than 10 weeks would be killer on the liver
    Bare in mind he's only running 30 mgs ED.But still,that is a rather lengthy time to expose your liver to a 17aa.


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    i was shooting 50mg a winny 4 times a week, no tabs, just 50mg a day of dbol 's

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    im also switching to cyp now from enanthate , should i see a difference??? never used cyp before, also should i try some suspension neeed more bulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanPerfection1
    im also switching to cyp now from enanthate, should i see a difference??? never used cyp before, also should i try some suspension neeed more bulk
    I doubt you'll see much difference between cyp and enanthate .There's an extra carbon attached to cyp otherwise it's identical in molecular structure to enanthate.I'd opt for suspension myself.If you can handle 2x ED injections.


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    HP1--- You are 22.......good grief man, how many cycles have you completed before this monster? I mean 20 weeks of winny? I am curious, how long have you been training and what your cycle experiences are, I mean what are your goals.... prof. BB... some type of competitive athlete? etc. etc.
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    bro, you got it all wrong with that cycle. Winny is way to long, hell, i'd never run Test @750 that long personally and I got alot more cycles under the belt than you. And D-bol in the middle for 6 weeks?? Mast in the middle?? your already into this cycle, right?? IMO your way to young for these kind of doses, and the cycle is bad anyway. I hope your already on a liver transplant list.

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    Keep it simple laddy
    1-15 test 750mg week
    1-6 dbol 50mg a day
    1-15 tren 400mg week

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    That much juice and he wont live to see 25!

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    shit man i didnt se ur onli 22, ru crazy or somethin, do urself a fava and keep to a test deca dbol cycle or somethin, gd gains lowish sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesC
    Keep it simple laddy
    1-15 test 750mg week
    1-6 dbol 50mg a day
    1-15 tren 400mg week
    15 weeks of tren ??? Now thats great advice, its because of guy like you that idiots like him jump on such long and harsh cycles!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness
    15 weeks of tren??? Now thats great advice, its because of guy like you that idiots like him jump on such long and harsh cycles!!!
    I and many others have run tren for this long and longer with minimal problems, so b4 u make comments, check out peoples experiences. Also if u look i have corrected what i originally said having seen his age!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesC
    I and many others have run tren for this long and longer with minimal problems, so b4 u make comments, check out peoples experiences. Also if u look i have corrected what i originally said having seen his age!
    Yeah 15 weeks of tren with 22 is what I was refering to, but you didnt know his age and corrected your self. As a matter of fact at his age he doesnt need tren at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness
    Yeah 15 weeks of tren with 22 is what I was refering to, but you didnt know his age and corrected your self. As a matter of fact at his age he doesnt need tren at all.
    exactly wot i posted brotha, no worries with the misunderstading, I just assumed coz the title is pro-cycle that he was an experienced user, which was my mistake.

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    No biggie bro

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    i never tried suspension before, i'll give it a try what do u guys think

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    100mg a day???? or 200

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    give us ur plan for a cycle first, coz ur other 1 blows!!

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    im on week 13 now

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    i know its alittle crazy but honestly im getting really good results just want more bulk, i can get anything and moneys not a problem

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    oh dear - hell no in that case

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    seriously bro, it sounds like u sorta know wot ur doing, but get off the winny at least, ur liver will thank you

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    Crazy cycle.

    But hey, if you're going to do it, let me suggest a couple of things.

    You don't need winny and masteron together. Personally, I'd go with masteron, because it gives winny-like results with out being liver toxic. Drop the winny altogether. Use the masteron for the last 4-6 weeks of your cycle to harden you up and dry you out.

    Also, why are you using dbol in the middle of your cycle? Use it at the begining. Weeks 1-4 or 5.

    Don't really know much about IGF1, but hopefully you do. Is this a really large dose your using?

    Run the tren for 6-8 weeks at the end of the cycle. This will help with fat loss, and combined with the masteron, you should be able to get a nice dry, hard look. You might also want to throw in some var or t-bol for the last six weeks for increased vascularity and hardness.

    Also, you're 5'11 242 and you need a "lot more bulk"? Are you trying to get your pro card or something? Are you going for the Ronnie Coleman look? If that's what you're trying to do then that's cool, but if you are simply in this game to compete in few amateur contests and look really jacked....then bro, you're already there.

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    And make sure you do a really intensive pct: clomid, nolva, hcg , l-dex, a-dex...

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