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This is my second cycle and I want to make some real gains. I'm 5'11 weigh 200 lbs, 33" waist, 16" Arms and 39" Chest. My plan:
1-8wk 400mg deca (front load 800mg week 1)
1-8wk 600mg-test cyp
1-4wk 30mg of dbol ed
8-11wk 100mg-test prop eod
8-11wk 50mg winstrol ed
1-8wk 10mg novadex ed
clomid week 12
doses look good. i would extend the cyp and deca to 10 wks then incorporate the prop(wich is a good idea by the way). Also run the winny for five wks if you can. hit the nolva all the way through cycle and through pct not just for the first 8wks. you'll grow like mad being only your second cycle. i wish i could afford more than test for my next cycle, oh well, that's what i get for goin to college
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Originally Posted by beachdude
I like this much better:
test prop 50mg eod 1-4
test e 400mgs/wk 1-12
deca 300mgs/wk 1-12
test prop 50mgs eod 12-15
winny 50mgs ed 12-15
PCT including no less than 100mgs of clomid ed, 15-18 or 19
You could drop the winny and still gain just as much LBM. Winny sucks.
I just started with this cycle, too late to change. The prop and winny are on order. How should I break down the intervals? Thank you....Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
Im running cyp and deca too same doses tooQuote:
Originally Posted by beachdude
but im running the deca for 12 and the cyp for 13
and im jumpstarting with drol instead of dbol
imo i would run the cyp and deca for 13 and 12 weeks i seemed to get my best gains like weeks 8-12 let me know how it goes
Just extend the deca and c and it looks good...
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Originally Posted by beachdude
It's too short as is.
At 8 weeks, you'll just be upping your calories for the second time. If you are serious about this, on a bulking cyle, you should be upping your calories by 500 calories at least three times.
Your cycle is to short and is too highly-dosed.
beachdude: Too many hormones for a second cycle. I don't care if you just started it, you need to change it. Go test+deca or something like that.