Proviron...for how long ?

**Loki9090** · 09-12-2005, 04:35 PM

Hello my friends,

I have been on a cycle (Deca and winstrol ). ate this moment i am taking only proviron and clomid...since i finished it 25 days ago and let me tell You proviron has been great...i kept the hard look...and got even harder, my question is...for how long can i be on 50mg/day of proviron? should i reduce it to 25mg/day?

Thank You very much

P.S. i was already told that the Deca/win is not a good combination...although it worked very very well to me...since i am a MMA fighter and not a bodybuider

**Drummerboy** · 09-12-2005, 04:42 PM

50mg ED is good, mostly for its anti aromatase ability and freeing up more natty test (it competes for the sbg)... i would use nolva instead of clomid, but you can stop your PCT when you know your test is back up (blood work)

**Alpha-Male** · 09-12-2005, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Loki9090

P.S. i was already told that the Deca/win is not a good combination...although it worked very very well to me...since i am a MMA fighter and not a bodybuider

don't think that makes much difference...i know lots of NON-bodybuilders who wouldn't consider that cycle, but anyhoo...

i'm not too familiar with proviron pct, but check the profile section, or maybe some other bros here can help...i've always just used it during a test run, but i know it's suppressive so unless you're bridging with it, i don't see the point...

AM

**Loki9090** · 09-12-2005, 04:51 PM

Thank You both

**The Godfather** · 09-12-2005, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Loki9090

P.S. i was already told that the Deca/win is not a good combination...although it worked very very well to me...since i am a MMA fighter and not a bodybuider

if you are a fighter winny deca has to be one of the worst cycles you can run, both are highly anabolic (good for muscle growth, but not for strength, meaning you'll put weight on, which is bad if you are trying to meet a certain weight), deca stays in your system about 18 months (which is bad if you ever get drug tested), and winny is very harsh on joints, ligaments, blood lipids and HDL

if your a fighter you'd be better of with things like test, tren , halo, var, even masteron , and even dbol ! deca and winny would both be at the bottom of my list

JMO though, if you're happy with the results then great, just saying there might have been better options

**Drummerboy** · 09-12-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by The Godfather

if you are a fighter winny deca has to be one of the worst cycles you can run, both are highly anabolic (good for muscle growth, but not for strength, meaning you'll put weight on, which is bad if you are trying to meet a certain weight), deca stays in your system about 18 months (which is bad if you ever get drug tested), and winny is very harsh on joints, ligaments, blood lipids and HDL

if your a fighter you'd be better of with things like test, tren , halo, var, even masteron , and even dbol ! deca and winny would both be at the bottom of my list

JMO though, if you're happy with the results then great, just saying there might have been better options

I agree with this

**Loki9090** · 09-13-2005, 02:36 AM

Thank You all....again

**Titan1** · 09-13-2005, 08:13 AM

But its so individual he said that this combo worked very well for him

**Loki9090** · 09-13-2005, 11:14 AM

I think it did work very very well!...also for the proviron ...my question was not really about taking it as a pct compound...but off cycle help.

here is a picture of the after cycle (no so good but i did it to myself)

**Loki9090** · 09-13-2005, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Godfather

if you are a fighter winny deca has to be one of the worst cycles you can run, both are highly anabolic (good for muscle growth, but not for strength, meaning you'll put weight on, which is bad if you are trying to meet a certain weight), deca stays in your system about 18 months (which is bad if you ever get drug tested), and winny is very harsh on joints, ligaments, blood lipids and HDL

if your a fighter you'd be better of with things like test, tren , halo, var, even masteron , and even dbol ! deca and winny would both be at the bottom of my list

JMO though, if you're happy with the results then great, just saying there might have been better options

You should try Winstrol before saying that is bad for a fighter....since it is anabolic and no androgenic ...does not cause me weight gain...just muscle gain followed by fat loss...lots of strength...and endurance all this is very very good for me as a fighter.

regards

**Loki9090** · 09-14-2005, 04:12 AM

Thank You all for helping me anyway!

**Alpha-Male** · 09-16-2005, 10:17 AM

bro, the proof is in the pudding, and even though it looks like a retard took that pic, i can tell you look pretty damn good (don't worry, i'm married...to a woman

)...keep doing what works for you and makes you happy, JMO...

AM

**Drummerboy** · 09-17-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Loki9090

You should try Winstrol before saying that is bad for a fighter....since it is anabolic and no androgenic ...does not cause me weight gain...just muscle gain followed by fat loss...lots of strength...and endurance all this is very very good for me as a fighter.

regards

umm... whatever you say bro

**Drummerboy** · 09-17-2005, 03:56 PM

just for the record... if i was a fighter (which i am not, but anyhow) i would use strong androgens for the strength... but watch out for endurance killers like tren ... Have you considered endurance enhancing drugs? like aranesp, provigil?