In your opinion which is best, and why? Mind you, cost is not to be considered as a variable here. I only want opinions based on experiential pros and cons.
Thanks,
M
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In your opinion which is best, and why? Mind you, cost is not to be considered as a variable here. I only want opinions based on experiential pros and cons.
Thanks,
M
Well, winstrol gives better strength gains for me, but has too many downsides. Anavar at least doesn't kill my liver nor destroy my tendons.
I would personally go with Win over var... I have always had exceptional results with winny... but Var is going to be given a second chance in October.
Ive only tried var but I had good results from it.
anavar from some direct feedback of some of my clients. Sometimes they couldnt finish leg day when on winny becasue the lower back pumps where so much.
I would go with the var in terms of cutting i choose var over winny, plus winny drys out your joints which makes you prone to injury
less sides w/ var
var by far,winny will have u peeing brown.i cant do winny for more than a week before my elbows feel like shattering and var imo is better for fat
I have done both and var is by far for me the best with no sides, strength gains and cutting.
I'd go with the var. I got great strength gains, and vascular as hell.
personally, i think both are bad choices.
why do you say that power? if someone is looking to include one of these in their 'cutting cycle' - would you tell them to look for something else? if so - what?
the trouble with var is its so expensive. i know that the original post said he does not care about $ and i understand that....just wanted to throw my .02 in. having said that - since your putting something in your body - and you want the best results you should be willing to spend $ for the best product i guess.
are we talking oral vs oral here. because i love var over oral winny but when dealing with inject winny i like that. regardless i choose var over any form of winny but inject winny seemed to make me more vascular and gained far more strength. but the sides(joint pain) was unbearable. So if your willing to fork over the cash just go with var over any of the three options.
The original post didn't say I don't care about money, it said "cost is not to be considered as a variable here". This is because the cost differential is well known, and I only want opinions based solely on their properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuckDog
And Power, as stated by Muck we're not necessarily evaluating them as oral only cycles, again just based on their individual properties, or what each brings to the independent table or adds to the cycle.
Thanks for all your replies,
M.
I would go with Var. I'm not big on winny, the effects aren't that great plus your hair sheds like hell on it. It may be more pricey but you get your money's worth out of var.
are results easily maintained on var?
like your joints? dont use winni if you do.
Pretty much everything you gain on var will be keptQuote:
Originally Posted by john30
I'm curious what causes back pumps from orals like this, is it a back pump or are we misinterpreting it for kidney problems ? My last cycle, I stopped using Dianabol because my back always felt pumped no matter what I did and I enjoy deadlifting and squatting every week. It was almost impossible to get a good workout in. Hell, bending over to wash dishes pumped my back up. I did however find that drinking more water seemed to alleviate that problem.Quote:
anavar from some direct feedback of some of my clients. Sometimes they couldnt finish leg day when on winny becasue the lower back pumps where so much.
Anyhow, being into strongman holds me back from using winstrol, dried up joints is really among the last things I need. If I had to take a 17aa oral it would probably be Halotestin.
VAR...for me var is better than winny, var has almost no sides with me...and with EQ the vascularity is unbeleivable
so what exactly is a good cutting cycle??? no one really ever says...all you hear about is how bad winny is...dont do this.....dont do that....dont do a cycle - just eat and train properly...
you just answered your own questionQuote:
Originally Posted by MuckDog
tren/prop/ winny= a good cutting cycle bro try this and i gurantee your pipe down under will even have veins as well. peace they call me salu
Hey Big C was your cycle just Eq & Var? Curious in this combo because it's what I plan on next cycle! I really do not want to add Test, I like my hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_C
I've just finished a 10 week Var cycle at 50mg ED. Great stuff. Not huge size but vascular and strong. The only thing I found over the two is that Var does in fact decrease ones sex drive dramatically and depression kicks in sometimes too. I've been doing gear for about 10 years and have really found the Var to hammer me a lot more on the sex drive (probably coz I wasn't doing any test with it).
I'm doing Nolva and Tribulus for pct and am just hoping everything kicks back in soon. My girlfriend is getting pissed off with me.
it all depends how expensive your var is.... lol
No, I've never done a no test cycle, i wouldn't recomend Eq and Var alone. If your worried about your hair loss check out some Finast over at arr. Test doesn't thin my hair...but I'm not really prone to MPB. Winny will make you thin more than test IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by MickyBlues