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    Question question

    ok why do so many people suggest taking winnie with mass cycles? isn't the point of mass cycles to accumulate water (along with red blood cells) for strength gains that are going to stress your muscles to a whole new level. this didnt make sense to my cousin or i, me researching a lot and him knowin dan duchaine for years and being his guinea pig right before his death. he never took winnie during a mass cycle and had great results. his only cycle of a-bomb packed on 38lbs.... 26 of which he kept afterwards. i just think you hinder results if you don't allow your body to retain water since strength comes from muscle contractions and the more water the stronger contraction you can accomplish. anyone hit me back with your thoughts on this

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    What? Water and red blood cells? When I do a bulk cycle my goal is just to gain as much lean body mass as I can.

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    but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?

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    tru dat ^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?
    If that were true, you could gain tons of muscle by eating a high sodium diet and taking EPO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    but the reason you gain lean mass is because steroids increase water retention and red blood cell production. water retention is what makes your strength go up since contraction is stronger with more water. the red blood cell increase is what makes you recover quicker and synthesize more protein... making you grow faster. winnie is a muscle saver during dieting, so why hinder water retention unless under suspicion?

    I am in a cycle now with test and Winstrol Tabs so I want to

    Need to here what people think about what he has suggested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmeat
    If that were true, you could gain tons of muscle by eating a high sodium diet and taking EPO.
    yeah except that it retains a lot of water within the muscle cells. and the red blood cell production is what takes oxygen to your muscles. ever notice you get winded if you don't do cardio on a cycle. it's because your red blood cells are delivering the oxygen to all the new weight you have and your lungs aren't accustomed to that and can't handle it.

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    Oceanrun,do you know what it means to hijack a thread?
    Last edited by itsdarock; 09-20-2005 at 12:19 AM.

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    lol no im a rookie whats that mean? someone had the same post or im making too many comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsdarock
    Oceanrun,do you know what it means to hijack a thread?

    What are you talking about??

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    lol no im a rookie whats that mean? someone had the same post or im making too many comments?
    if you have a different ? from what is talked about on any particular thread and just jump in and try and change the topic. just start a new thread. so you know for future refrence.

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    o ok gracias but its cool i just wanna kno what ppl think about it i mean its kinda relevant to my topic. any more thoughts on the winnie during mass thought?

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    What are you talking about He told us about this and so I wanted more info on it.

    What start a new thread? That is just BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsdarock
    if you have a different ? from what is talked about on any particular thread and just jump in and try and change the topic. just start a new thread. so you know for future refrence.


    itsdarock " "

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    lol thats that roid rage baby yes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    lol thats that roid rage baby yes!!!



    lol

    Throwinweights I never meant to jump over your post just like it and want to know more about it that all. Sorry if I jumped on your post I don't think I did but again if I did sorry!

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    lol

    dont even worry bout it i dont care i just wanna get the logic behind that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    dont even worry bout it i dont care i just wanna get the logic behind that lol


    yes me too

    I just think he wanted to get his 2 cents in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanrun
    yes me too

    I just think he wanted to get his 2 cents in.
    do canadians look like terrance&phillip? oh yeah and oceanrun
    no i didn't want to get my .02 in. i wasn't readin the post correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwinweights
    dont even worry bout it i dont care i just wanna get the logic behind that lol
    well that is the logic, my bad though yo0u didn't hijack the thread

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