Lookin to get ripped w/ MIN to no weight gain!!

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 07:30 AM

What up fellaz....

For the last couple of cycles ive been doing Var only cycles.... (loved them) But now my Var connect is gone and am gonna stick myself again... (cant wait)

But, Im trying to get ripped and stay at the SAME weight! Any suggestions to my goal!

thanks boys

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 07:31 AM

Prop/Suspension is on the top of my list... by the way! wanted other choices/opinions as well!!

**Ejuicer** · 09-22-2005, 07:33 AM

Prop, clen and a good diet would be simple and effective.

**01dragonslayer** · 09-22-2005, 07:49 AM

Prop/tren .

**STRANGE** · 09-22-2005, 07:52 AM

prop tren havent taken yet but prob will start in about 2 weeks but have heard nothing but good things

**bigger** · 09-22-2005, 07:54 AM

dont forget cardigo, works fine for me!!

good lluck

**MickyBlues** · 09-22-2005, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

What up fellaz....

For the last couple of cycles ive been doing Var only cycles.... (loved them) But now my Var connect is gone and am gonna stick myself again... (cant wait)

But, Im trying to get ripped and stay at the SAME weight! Any suggestions to my goal!

thanks boys

I am about to start a Var only cycle. First time doing this, any suggestions on how to take it? How much and when to take it? Thanks in advance!

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

Prop/tren.

Ive taken fina before but i think it was fake...

You dont put much size on from takin fina???

**AandF6969** · 09-22-2005, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

You dont put much size on from takin fina???

You shouldn't if your diet isn't sufficient to gain...

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by MickyBlues

I am about to start a Var only cycle. First time doing this, any suggestions on how to take it? How much and when to take it? Thanks in advance!

See Dfloods thread on Var!!

ive taken: last cycle
75mg ED var
4g trib
2g avina sativa
5g gaba
3g CLA
clomid pct

yes, i am perfect!! hahahaha

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

You shouldn't if your diet isn't sufficient to gain...

OK, so as long as i keep my diet in check, i will be fine!! (basically protein and vegis only was my plan)

**AandF6969** · 09-22-2005, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

OK, so as long as i keep my diet in check, i will be fine!! (basically protein and vegis only was my plan)

I wouldn't neglect PWO and PPWO carbs bro, you need glycogen replentishment or you are going to get burned out.

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

I wouldn't neglect PWO and PPWO carbs bro, you need glycogen replentishment or you are going to get burned out.

not to familiar with PWO and PPWO... and I defly hear that! Unfortunately, i could never totally stay away from carbs but my goal is to cut them out as much as possible. Thanks AandF

**HeavyHitter** · 09-22-2005, 08:51 AM

and mickyb... dont let anyone tell ya different 40-50mg ED is the lowest dose you should take. (and i push towrds the 50mg mark)

**AandF6969** · 09-22-2005, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

not to familiar with PWO and PPWO... and I defly hear that! Unfortunately, i could never totally stay away from carbs but my goal is to cut them out as much as possible. Thanks AandF

Immediately after workouts is the time your muscles can absorb the most glycogen and protein so it is wise to down a shake with carbs and protein in a 2:1 ratio within 20 mins of working out.

Check out the diet forum bro, I'd consider this one of the most important things that I've learned in the past 18 months in regard to my muscle growth and body composition.

**MickyBlues** · 09-22-2005, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

and mickyb... dont let anyone tell ya different 40-50mg ED is the lowest dose you should take. (and i push towrds the 50mg mark)

HeavyHitter, what results did you get from the Anavar only cycle. Curious about it's fat burning properties, as mentioned in Hooker's profile.

**Seattle Junk** · 09-22-2005, 11:21 AM

Try oral turanibol as well. tbol is very similiar to var and a lot cheaper.

**MickyBlues** · 09-22-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Try oral turanibol as well. tbol is very similiar to var and a lot cheaper.

Can one take OT for as long as you would an anavar cycle?

**ODC0717** · 09-22-2005, 11:49 AM

How about some prop and masteron ?

**Dally** · 09-22-2005, 12:02 PM

prop for the low water rentention...cause you still wanna look seksi for the bitches...shoot like 50 to 75mg ed. for 10 weeks.

run some anti e like nolva at 10mg ed

and for pwo bro just get some dextrose/corn sugar from the bulk barn and put in 2 scoops for every scoop of protein right after lifting weights.

bang broads for cardio ... at least 15 session since you can only last 2 minutes a go....you should get at least 30 ed or at least 4 days a week...

do a little sauna here and there ... like thursday and friday to dry out abit to pick up more slutbaclot on the weekend.....

call me bitch .. i love you still

**01dragonslayer** · 09-22-2005, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

You dont put much size on from takin fina???

Strength will go through the roof with some size gain. Tren will also burn BF and will make you very vascular. I personally love tren and will include into all future cycles.