going to do a cycle of tren/var/equipoise, what do you think of that cycle? any suggestions?
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going to do a cycle of tren/var/equipoise, what do you think of that cycle? any suggestions?
A bulletproof diet and cardio routine is definately the backbone of any "get ripped" plan.
That being said, you really might want to consider adding some form of testosterone unless you don't plan on using your dick for a few months.
[QUOTE=AandF6969]A bulletproof diet and cardio routine is definately the backbone of any "get ripped" plan.
That being said, you really might want to consider adding some form of testosterone unless you don't plan on using your dick for a few months.[/QUOTE]
Absolutly correct!
was thinking of adding prop, but not sure.
cool. I can only recomend to include stanozolol or proviron- great mix with tren.
What would be the negative effect of adding testosterone?Quote:
Originally Posted by smithee
you will have bloat with test no ripps.
no negative effect, just wasnt sure if i should add some or not.
Not with Prop.Quote:
Originally Posted by zobobobo
ha all the test gives bloat unless you use anti estrogenics
OK, does TNE give you bloat? hmmmm???Quote:
Originally Posted by zobobobo
Prop gives little to NO bloat. you should read up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by zobobobo
never experienced bloat before!
all test gives bloat. Propionat is only ester-a couple of molecules attached to the molecule of the test. When they fallthe test is free to onvert to estrogens. ||You should be staing in front of the books.
TNE (test no ester), also known as testosterone suspention, does not have an ester attached to it so therefore it does not cause any bloat. So no, not all test gives bloat.Quote:
Originally Posted by zobobobo
man ester do nothing- i was trying to explain that it is the free testosteron that matters. Thats why you will have hard bloat with suspension unless you ingected for longer than 5 days period.
if u wanna get ripped bro cardio lots of it and watch diet.
Dude test suspension gives you the worst of all bloat.....taken from hookers profile:Quote:
Originally Posted by AandF6969
Most athletes will also only use this form of testosterone in a bulking cycle as it is usually accompanied by high water retention, severe bloat, adipose storage, and gynomastia. This product also has a high level of aromitization into estrogen and coverts to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) as well.
What ??? Test is test guys. They all have the same side effects and you won't get better results from cyp, enanthate, suspension or prop, they are all the same, the only difference is how fast will you see the results and how fast does it get out of your system.Quote:
TNE (test no ester), also known as testosterone suspention, does not have an ester attached to it so therefore it does not cause any bloat. So no, not all test gives bloat.
And because Test suspension is active much faster than an oil based test, you will bloat much faster. Trust me, I love test suspension for it's quick effects, but I bloat quickly with it too.
I pesonally dont know anybody that uses test without anti E's. So test should be included in this cycle atleast in low doses IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by zobobobo
dv
i second that. and prop does tend to cause less bloat just for the record. that's why everyone includes it in these "cutting" cyclesQuote:
Originally Posted by dirtyvegas
I will be using nolv/clo in stack for my anti-e.
if you want to run that cycle with no test.....id lose the tren....but who knows you may know your body and i have friends that dont run test ever in a cycle and they still get it up