The Ultimate Stack!?

**crackle** · 05-03-2002, 10:24 PM

Hey guy's,
For the pro's out there, I have a quick question...
I plan on doing a cycle and was wondering if anybody had some insight on the combination and duration of the AAS I am planning to take. My cycle looks as follows...

week----Deca ----D-Bol----Sauce----Nolvadex ----Proviron ----Clomid
-------(weekly)-(weekly)------------------------------------------
--1------2cc-----15/day-----*---------*-----------*----------*--
--2-----2.5cc----15/day-----*---------*-----------*----------*--
--3------3cc-----20/day-----*---------*-----------*----------*--
--4-----3.5cc----20/day-----*-------10/day------25/day------*--
--5------4cc-----25/day-----*-------10/day------25/day------*--
--6-----3.5cc----25/day-----*-------10/day------25/day------*--
--7------3cc-------*------250cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--8-----2.5cc------*------250cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--9------2cc-------*------375cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--10------*--------*------375cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--11------*--------*------250cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--12------*--------*------250cc-----20/day------25/day------*--
--13------*--------*--------*--------20/day------25/day-----*---
--14------*--------*--------*-------20/day-------25/day---50/day
--15------*--------*--------*----------*-----------*-------50/day

Any comments would be much appreciated. I consider this my first cycle (even though I dipped into Deca before ). I'm 6'2" and at about 220lbs. with roughly 20%BF. Is alvadex better than Clomid, is it necessary to take Nolv. and Prov. together, my Deca and Sauce would more than likely be the vet type (Brovel Labs) would this be OK? I'm trying to consume a desent amount of my "vitamins" by taking a little over the recommended dosage, but with my weight, am I taking to little? I would like to stay off the path of side effects so I'm trying to be a little cautious. One more quick question, acne is treatable along with most of the side effects, but hair loss is irreversable. Looking at my grandfather and uncles it seeks that pattern baldness is not relatively a porblem, but is it possible to secumb to hair loss after a cycle with the listed dosages. This is the only debate I have on starting my cycle. Phew, thanks fellas...

*Eat BIG, Train BIG, Think BIG, GET BIG*

**D3m3nt3d** · 05-03-2002, 10:29 PM

the way you have it written is hard to understand =\

**crackle** · 05-03-2002, 10:37 PM

Sorry, just finished fixing it.

**MBaraso** · 05-03-2002, 10:42 PM

I dunno who gave u that stack and I'm not flaming but IMO theres so many things wrong w/ this stack I won't even begin to try and fix it.
Who told you to do something like this?

**crackle** · 05-03-2002, 10:52 PM

Hey MBaraso,
What's wrong with this stack?

G-S · 05-03-2002, 11:02 PM

Well, for one, tapering is old school. No reason to taper. For 2, I'll assume that "sauce" means "test"..and you are waiting till week 7 to start it. Nolvadex should be kept on hand, incase you NEED it...so you should run some Arimidex instead. Arimidex can block, but the Nolvadex will stop the gyno IF it has started. No reason, IMO, to run it the whole time.

There are more, but I already forgot what you had written down.

**MBaraso** · 05-03-2002, 11:06 PM

This sounds like a typical "gym" stack as I call them.
Dosage on the D-bol are low not to mention your running it for 6 weeks which is a no no. Dosage on the test is low and it's not being run long enough, not to mention the pyrimid thing is worthless IMO. You don't need nolv unless you see signs of gyno, or if your prone to gyno you could run it like that. Are you prone to it? But you need to keep it on-hand.
Deca : I don't know what yoru mg per ml is. What is it?
Clomid: no where near enough, even with the prov
Should I keep going? lol
I'm not a expert and I don't think I know it all but I've seen people do cycles like this and they didn't get the results they were looking for....

M

**RudeBwoy** · 05-03-2002, 11:11 PM

You have a lot of questions it seems. I would do a search on cycles and compare it to yours. What goals you are looking for will determine what type of cycle will be ideal for you. As for side effects, its part of the game.