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    advice needed

    I am 5´9 and weigh 200 pounds, bodyfat around 11%.

    I have run 2 cycles up to now.
    1´st 250mg test e 10 weeks
    2´st 25mg d-bol for 7 weeks and 200mg primo for 10 weeks.

    The effect has been mild but safe. Im thinking of running a cycle of test and primo. Im going for lean bodymass, want to avoid bloat and water retension.

    250mg test for 10 weeks, have not decided wich test, any advice ??
    400mg primo for 10 weeks.

    20mg nolva for 4 weeks, begin two weeks after lasr shot.

    Would this give a good result in lean mass ? or should i up the test too 500mg week ? Will be thanksfull for any advice..
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    Come on guys.. I need some advice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    I am 5´9 and weigh 200 pounds, bodyfat around 11%.

    I have run 2 cycles up to now.
    1´st 250mg test e 10 weeks
    2´st 25mg d-bol for 7 weeks and 200mg primo for 10 weeks.

    The effect has been mild but safe. Im thinking of running a cycle of test and primo. Im going for lean bodymass, want to avoid bloat and water retension.

    250mg test for 10 weeks, have not decided wich test, any advice ??
    400mg primo for 10 weeks.

    20mg nolva for 4 weeks, begin two weeks after lasr shot.

    Would this give a good result in lean mass ? or should i up the test too 500mg week ? Will be thanksfull for any advice..

    I would go up in my test doses to at least 500mg e/w, 250, your are supressing your nat test and not adding in enough to total much ove nat levels. Don't go for primo myself I like deca but I would go something like:
    test e/cyp 500mg/wk for 12 wks
    deca/primo 400mg/wk for 10 wks

    Also get lots of nolva, if you need it for gyno the small amount you have listed for pct will be gone when you need it. Don't get cheap on the ancillaries.

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    As far as which test, stick with a single ester like cyp or e or even prop, but not one of the multi esters that seem to provide the best unstable blood serum levels. For me, always E, but I believe cyp to be almost identical.

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    I agree with shortie on the doses...250 is not nearly enough...IMHO...PROP!....oh and you may want to add somethin else to that pct other than nolva alone

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    Thanks for the advice bro. the reason i go for primo instead of deca , is i want too stay lean and minimize water retension.. will this be a good cycle for that purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    Thanks for the advice bro. the reason i go for primo instead of deca, is i want too stay lean and minimize water retension.. will this be a good cycle for that purpose
    Yeah you should be good, I always took L-Dex to combat the bloat, someday I will try primo though. But for now I just love what deca does for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    Thanks for the advice bro. the reason i go for primo instead of deca, is i want too stay lean and minimize water retension.. will this be a good cycle for that purpose
    reason i like prop is it has so little water retetntion compared to deca and the other test esters

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulCard
    reason i like prop is it has so little water retetntion compared to deca and the other test esters
    So you would recommend prop instead of test E and test C ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    So you would recommend prop instead of test E and test C ??
    Brut, a lot of guys love their prop, and I mean love it, for good reason. But if you are at all averse to pins the nesseccity of e/d or eod injection makes E or Cyp a better choice.

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