Check this out, for first cycle ever?

[Roided TeXas Tiger]

Ok I've been working out all my life, but recently just hard for about 3yrs, on and off stuff like creatine and No2. I've decided to take it to the next step and join darkside. From what I hear from freinds and from what I read, this is what I've come up with for my first cycle, tell me ya'lls opinion please.

P.S. I need all the opinions you can provide me with.


200mg of Test100/week
200mg of Deca /week
40mg of Dianobol/day
50mg of Winstral/day

Any opinions?

[Smak]

That cycle needs a little bit of work. This would be much better for you.

500mg of Test100/week
400mg of Deca /week
30-40mg of Dbol /day

No need for Winstrol in your first cycle. That cycle right there will give you awesome gains for your first time. Enjoy!

[Smak]

I forgot to add that run the dbol weeks 1-4 at 30 mg

[Roided TeXas Tiger]

Thnx man, so taking 500mg of test and 400 of deca for a first cycle of my life isnt dangerous?

Also I'm wanting to cut the remaining fat around my waist area, so I was wanting to use the Winstral for that, could I use it anyway?

[ToTheBuckeT21]

WOOOOO 100 POSTS!!!

I'd say drop the deca for a first cycle and just do 500mgs of test a week for 10 weeks

[Pinnacle]

Thnx man, so taking 500mg of test and 400 of deca for a first cycle of my life isnt dangerous?

Also I'm wanting to cut the remaining fat around my waist area, so I was wanting to use the Winstral for that, could I use it anyway?

That's a beefy first cycle bro.Winny is OK to run with Test your first trip,but I'd save the other compounds for a later time.


WK 1-10 Test 500 mgs wkly
WK 6-12 Winny 50 mgs ED
Nolv @ 10 mgs ED
L-dex @ .25 mgs ED

Pct will start 1 day after last administration of Winny.

~Pinnacle~

[Smak]

Nope. Most people recommend that you only take Test for your first cycle so if you do get any sides then you know where they came from. I happen to believe that adding Deca and Dbol to the mix at those moderate doses will make your cycle much more effective with your receptors being fresh. As long as your test is higher then your Deca, you should be fine. You'll grow like a weed.

Test 500mg week
Deca 400mg week
Dbol 1-4 30mg a day

[IBdmfkr]

That's a beefy first cycle bro.Winny is OK to run with Test your first trip,but I'd save the other compounds for a later time.

Agreed, maybe even just stick with the test for your first go around. See how your body responds. Keep nolva and PCTs on hand.

[wolfyEVH]

Thnx man, so taking 500mg of test and 400 of deca for a first cycle of my life isnt dangerous?

Also I'm wanting to cut the remaining fat around my waist area, so I was wanting to use the Winstral for that, could I use it anyway?

test only like the guys are saying........and don't think winny burns fat.....your diet and cardio will

[ToTheBuckeT21]

well thats the cycle i'm starting in like a week only test is 50mgs higher and i'm runnin it for 13 weeks... and its my 3rd cycle.

So you decide what you wanna do. even if you do test only you'll still grow... alot

[SMYL_GR8]

WOOOOO 100 POSTS!!!

I'd say drop the deca for a first cycle and just do 500mgs of test a week for 10 weeks

100 posts, you freak.

Alright, brutha, the quick answer is the same as the ones you got. Test400-500mg week for 10-12 weeks. DBol 1-4 weeks at the start 30mg day BUT no one has said a damn thing about ancillaries or PCT. You need to do some research on PCT and Anti-estrogens. Read around the steroid forums, search for PCT and look at the steroid.com home page for Novice Cycle I examples. Good Luck.

[Smak]

I've said this before and i'll say it again. I ran Test and dbol for my first cycle like this.

Test 500mg 2 shots 250mg a week Mon & Thurs
Dbol 30mg 1-4 30mg 1 hour before I workout.

I managed to gain 15 pounds and keep it. I wish I had throw in some Deca to make it even better. That's my only complaint. I had no sides whatsoever except for a little acne on my chest, back and shoulders. Remember you have to eat, eat, and eat some more especially on your first cycle. You're body is growing at an astonishing rate when your juiced.

[Pinnacle]

100 posts, you freak.

Alright, brutha, the quick answer is the same as the ones you got. Test400-500mg week for 10-12 weeks. DBol 1-4 weeks at the start 30mg day BUT no one has said a damn thing about ancillaries or PCT. You need to do some research on PCT and Anti-estrogens. Read around the steroid forums, search for PCT and look at the steroid.com home page for Novice Cycle I examples. Good Luck.

Pardon?You should re-read my post throughly just one more time.


~Pinnacle~

[Smak]

100 posts, you freak.

Alright, brutha, the quick answer is the same as the ones you got. Test400-500mg week for 10-12 weeks. DBol 1-4 weeks at the start 30mg day BUT no one has said a damn thing about ancillaries or PCT. You need to do some research on PCT and Anti-estrogens. Read around the steroid forums, search for PCT and look at the steroid.com home page for Novice Cycle I examples. Good Luck.

I think he can manage to do a little work on his own. Don't you think?

[IBdmfkr]

As well as mine.. I mentioned them but did not go into details. I'd hope he knows something about this beforehand.

[Pinnacle]

I've said this before and i'll say it again. I ran Test and dbol for my first cycle like this.

Test 500mg 2 shots 250mg a week Mon & Thurs
Dbol 30mg 1-4 30mg 1 hour before I workout.

I managed to gain 15 pounds and keep it. I wish I had throw in some Deca to make it even better. That's my only complaint. I had no sides whatsoever except for a little acne on my chest, back and shoulders. Remember you have to eat, eat, and eat some more especially on your first cycle. You're body is growing at an astonishing rate when your juiced.

The trophys are on back order bro.We'll ship you one when they arrive!

~Pinnacle~

[SMYL_GR8]

I think he can manage to do a little work on his own. Don't you think?

My post could have been worded better. When someone starts a thread like this one, it's immediately obvious that 10 or 15 posts are not going to suffice. There is a lack of baseline education that needs to be corrected before any critique or advice should be given so I try not to give a two line answer with some doses(the whole teach a man to fish thing. . .).

[SMYL_GR8]

Pardon?You should re-read my post throughly just one more time.


~Pinnacle~

No, I should have read it thoroughly the first time. I saw a few posts that were a bit narrow and jumped on EVERYBODY. My bad.

[Roided TeXas Tiger]

How hard is it to get ahold of Anti-estrogens, and other anti's? are they legal, or what. I can get roids easy as white on rice, but where do your get the anti-gyno's and anti-estrogens and crap at?

[Pinnacle]

Right here...www.anabolicreview-research.com


~Pinnacle~

[Pinnacle]

No, I should have read it thoroughly the first time. I saw a few posts that were a bit narrow and jumped on EVERYBODY. My bad.

One of the few times I didn't use spell check,I get busted.


~Pinnacle~

[ToTheBuckeT21]

try and tell me u weren't excited when u hit your 100th post

[ToTheBuckeT21]

HAHA! he said anti-gynos... thats freakin priceless i've never heard that but i'm gonna use it all the time! ROCK!

[ToTheBuckeT21]

alright, enough of me being a smacked ass... bro, do u know about pct?

[oswaldosalcedo]

PCT (POST CYCLE THERAPY )
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

[guildwars05]

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[ToTheBuckeT21]

Hahahahahahahaha

[ToTheBuckeT21]

when those tits just gotta go, get um gone with anti-gyno

ANTI-GYNOS... a johnson and johnson product

[magicstick2003]

i vote for test E only man. mainly so you can see how you respond to it and the fact you dont need to go all out your first time. id say go 500 on the test. along with anti-e and PCT. if you do this and eat/train well you should essily gain 20-25 pounds. you can probably manage to keep about 75-80% of it with proper pct andeating post cycle.
this is just my thought though so do as you want.
magic

[Tedbear981]

when those tits just gotta go, get um gone with anti-gyno

ANTI-GYNOS... a johnson and johnson product

Hi im just trying to reach 200 posts really fast ^

[stupidhippo]

I think ur stats can also factor here.. my first cycle (which got f++++d up though) was 350 mg test / week + 300 mg deca /week and it wasnt that great. Now Im doing test C 800mg /week + deca 500 mg/ week and working a lot better. But then again I got pretty big naturally and I am almost 280 lbs... I would go with what smak said or then maybe drop the deca if u not sure.

[stupidhippo]

nice avatar BTW Smak... very nice..