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    Starting steroids

    before starting steroids what other reasons besides your growth plates closing are there?

    i have a 17 year old nephew, just got his knee x-rayed b/c of mcl injury and they told him his growth plates closed

    are there reasons dealing with sexual effects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fballhoss51
    before starting steroids what other reasons besides your growth plates closing are there?

    i have a 17 year old nephew, just got his knee x-rayed b/c of mcl injury and they told him his growth plates closed

    are there reasons dealing with sexual effects?
    they were able to tell just by xraying his knee?????

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    at his age he has plenty of test in his body as it is. No need to screw that up. Plus steroids should only be used when youve acheived the most you could by working out natty.

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    Even though his growth plates are closed his enocrine system is not fully developed, any expirmentation with AAS could cause an irreverseable endo imbalance leaving him on meds forever. No one should consider gear until they are fully developed at a minmum for most I would say that would be at least 23yrs.

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    what can u do to tell if your endo sys. is fully developed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fballhoss51
    what can u do to tell if your endo sys. is fully developed?
    Come on now man you no better than to help a 17 year old juice. whats in it for u? Plus if he has a bad knee he cant do much heavy lifting.

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    knee x-ray and they saw groth plates?? Don't make sense to me. And at 17...i highly doubt it. But if they are by some chance..AAS is a no no at 17, he'll be sorry!!

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    im not looking into getting him on juice it just crossed my mind so i thot id ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL
    they were able to tell just by xraying his knee?????
    Yeah, really, WTF???

    Can they see the future too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Yeah, really, WTF???

    Can they see the future too?

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    they had a lil crystal ball in tha room, im not sure what that was for..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fballhoss51
    they had a lil crystal ball in tha room, im not sure what that was for..
    To smash over your head when you roll your eyes.

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    i took it at 17! im fine! im not on meds forever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyschomab
    i took it at 17! im fine! im not on meds forever!
    but if you could do it all over again would you have waited. And be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    To smash over your head when you roll your eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fballhoss51
    what can u do to tell if your endo sys. is fully developed?
    His isn't, ok, it just isn't! He is only 17, no friggin way he is fully developed. Now, there is a medical terminology for determining stages of adulthood and adolescence, but I don't really want to do the research and explain it to you so some kid can misinterpret it and use AAS anyhow.

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    what the?
    that guys post disappeared.
    WEIRD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    To smash over your head when you roll your eyes.

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    figured that

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    Quote Originally Posted by fballhoss51
    figured that


    I was just jokin' w/you man........

    It's just that being able to tell all of that from a mere X-Ray seems very strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyschomab
    i took it at 17! im fine! im not on meds forever!
    Yes and there are ignorant Mother fu#*ers that play with rattlesnakes as part of their religion and don't get hurt, does that mean we should all pick one up?

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    what do you usually have to do to check your growth plates?

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    RE: late teen HGH for height
    Author: Ron Kennedy, M.D. (---.dsl.static.sonic.net)
    Date: 02-23-2005 08:37

    Until the epiphyses of the long bones (femur, tibia and fibula when considering height) close, further growth is possible. That occurs on average around 18. The test would be an x-ray of a knee (only one is necessary) for fusion, closure, or ossification (they all mean the same thing) (or lack thereof) of the epipyseal plate. There are other causes of short stature - obviously poor nutrition and genetic endowment, but also hypothyroidism (which should produce other symptoms as well).

    I thought that it was possible to tell with an X-ray, but wanted to look to make sure.

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    Well I'll be damned!!! It's true!

    You learn something new everyday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    Yes and there are ignorant Mother fu#*ers that play with rattlesnakes as part of their religion and don't get hurt, does that mean we should all pick one up?
    Precisely!

    Way to put it, I liked that!

    Especially the IGNORANT MOTHER F*CKER part............

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    but if you could do it all over again would you have waited. And be honest.
    you know what i probably wouldnt do AAS right away if i went back in time seeing I feel i could have made the same progress with hardcore diet and training! maybe i would have been a bit taller too! but I dont regret all the pussy I got!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    Yes and there are ignorant Mother fu#*ers that play with rattlesnakes as part of their religion and don't get hurt, does that mean we should all pick one up?
    YES thats exactly what it means!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    RE: late teen HGH for height
    Author: Ron Kennedy, M.D. (---.dsl.static.sonic.net)
    Date: 02-23-2005 08:37

    Until the epiphyses of the long bones (femur, tibia and fibula when considering height) close, further growth is possible. That occurs on average around 18. The test would be an x-ray of a knee (only one is necessary) for fusion, closure, or ossification (they all mean the same thing) (or lack thereof) of the epipyseal plate. There are other causes of short stature - obviously poor nutrition and genetic endowment, but also hypothyroidism (which should produce other symptoms as well).

    I thought that it was possible to tell with an X-ray, but wanted to look to make sure.
    there we go, fball is right. i had faith in ya man!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    there we go, fball is right. i had faith in ya man!!
    lol thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyschomab
    you know what i probably wouldnt do AAS right away if i went back in time seeing I feel i could have made the same progress with hardcore diet and training! maybe i would have been a bit taller too! but I dont regret all the pussy I got!
    Exactly. Thanks for being honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyschomab
    but I dont regret all the pussy I got!
    ya brotha. when you get off do you find it hard to recover. since no one seems to know when you endocrine fully develops, i'm trying to gather info from young users about this. i started at 19, and being off is a breeze for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    ya brotha. when you get off do you find it hard to recover. since no one seems to know when you endocrine fully develops, i'm trying to gather info from young users about this. i started at 19, and being off is a breeze for me.
    ! no i recover fine i use proper pct! and im fucken girls like never before! never had any problems! and my body though loses water weight after cycle doesnt lose much muscle mass if any! i tack clen during pct so that may help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    ya brotha. when you get off do you find it hard to recover. since no one seems to know when you endocrine fully develops, i'm trying to gather info from young users about this. i started at 19, and being off is a breeze for me.

    T Hope this sheds some light on this for ya, damn sure took me long enough to find it.


    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
    (Redirected from Tanner stages)
    The Tanner stages (also known as the Tanner scale) are stages of physical development in children, adolescents and adults. The stages define physical measurements of development based on external primary and secondary sexual characteristics, such as the size of the breasts, genitalia, and development of pubic hair.

    Due to natural variation, individuals pass through the Tanner stages at different rates, depending in particular on the timing of puberty.

    In HIV treatment, Tanner staging is used to determine which treatment regimen to follow, either adult, adolescent, or pediatric.

    The Tanner stages were first identified by (and named for) James Mourilyan Tanner.

    It is commonly misbelieved that the Tanner stages measure the entire course of puberty. However, this is not true, bearing in mind that the internal reproductive organs begin changing much earlier, and finish changing much later, than the changes visible from the outside. Scientifically speaking, puberty begins at an average age of 9 in females and 10 in males, and ends at an average age of about 22. This is based on 'puberty' being defined as the period just encompassing all changes in the reproductive organs associated with the final activation of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, beginning when gonad growth begins to accelerate, and ending when all gonad growth is complete

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    uh oh. i fvkd up

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