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    How To Solidify Ur Gains

    read and heard some suggestion wherein you take some purely or highly anabolic gear at the latter part of a cycle to “solidify the gains”?

    what’s your take on this?

    how does it work?

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    no you dont solidify water

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    IMO the best way to solidify gains is to make your natural recovery as fast as possible.

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    solidify=keep..maintain past pct? Im guessing proper pct? Im not really seeing what you are saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    solidify=keep..maintain past pct? Im guessing proper pct? Im not really seeing what you are saying here.
    sorry dud...

    got mixed up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAGAD_01
    read and heard some suggestion wherein you take some purely or highly anabolic gear at the latter part of a cycle to “solidify the gains”?

    what’s your take on this?

    how does it work?
    Actually, you are CORRECT.....

    With long-acting injectables like Test E, Sustanon , EQ, and Deca , there will be a period of AT LEAST 2-4 weeks before PCT can even begin. During this 2-4 time frame, if you are not using a FAST acting injectable/ORAL while you WAIT for your long-ester to leave your system, you will be risking some SERIOUS LOSS OF GAINS. It is IMPERATIVE that during this time period you use a fast acting pure anabolic like Winstrol , Var, or Tbol, to "Harden up" and preserve gains until long-esters leave system...and THEN, once your esters have cleared your system completely, PCT can begin 24 hours after last Oral/injectable dose.

    This is how you SOLIDIFY your gains....

    !RE!

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    I learn something everyday.

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    Great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroid Man
    Great!
    Snuck back in again,huh Ross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Snuck back in again,huh Ross?

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    They left the back door open, so I walked right in!

    I will be leaving soon...just offering some help....

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    proper pct...proper diet post cycle...good base before

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    I'm going to do this too.
    Winny/prop weeks 12-16
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    using a short acting ester while waiting for the long lasting ester to leave your system is a great idea bro. I think il try that with some wintrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    using a short acting ester while waiting for the long lasting ester to leave your system is a great idea bro. I think il try that with some wintrol
    Great! Glad I can help




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    bump for more opinions on this

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    I was under hte impression that having real test in the system, somthing the body uses easily because its more natural, is what solidifies gains. the principal that test is needed to build and maintain muscle. since, orals are not test, they are a bad choice to "solitdify gains"??? i could be wrong not really sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
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    hahah...you actually used "steroid savior", you are a d**ck dude. way to win em over with that one lolololol.

    I am actaully kind of laughing WITH YOU and AT YOU at the same TIME on that ONE. not that i AGREE with YOU.
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    Very good post, Ross got to it before I did.

    If you take long lasting esters always throw in an oral or a shorter acting ester like propionate or nandrolone phenylpropionate to help keep your test levels up while they are slowly dropping in those last three weeks from the enanthate or other ester.

    By the way Ross, I don't know you but I agree with alot of the stuff you say except for the downgrading of test. It's perfectly fine in small dosages. However, I respect your opinion as well as everyone else's and different people have different bodies so you just have to find what works best for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspector_injector
    Very good post, Ross got to it before I did.

    If you take long lasting esters always throw in an oral or a shorter acting ester like propionate or nandrolone phenylpropionate to help keep your test levels up while they are slowly dropping in those last three weeks from the enanthate or other ester.

    By the way Ross, I don't know you but I agree with alot of the stuff you say except for the downgrading of test. It's perfectly fine in small dosages. However, I respect your opinion as well as everyone else's and different people have different bodies so you just have to find what works best for you.
    Inspector, you know your stuff. You continue to impress me.

    Thank you for being open-minded. You're a good bro.


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    I also do have respect for your opinion deep down. opinions are like assholes, everyone s got one. But you are terrible at presenting information. you cant present it in a im right and your wrong fashion. you just pisss people off that way. besides, bodybuilding is a very sensitive subject, if someone is told that what they are doing is not the absolute best, they freak. You are not humble about your ideas at all, which you lose alot of respect for. I remember another guy with radically different ideas, and, he IS the most humble online guy i have ever met. he really won alot of people oever

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronReload04
    I also do have respect for your opinion deep down. opinions are like assholes, everyone s got one. But you are terrible at presenting information. you cant present it in a im right and your wrong fashion. you just pisss people off that way. besides, bodybuilding is a very sensitive subject, if someone is told that what they are doing is not the absolute best, they freak. You are not humble about your ideas at all, which you lose alot of respect for. I remember another guy with radically different ideas, and, he IS the most humble online guy i have ever met. he really won alot of people oever
    Good advice.

    A more humble, less aggressive approach could be more effective.

    I am simply too PASSIONATE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Snuck back in again,huh Ross?
    nice one,,but is he talking bull?

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    where would you throw in the var? if i was running a 12 week cycle of test e @ 500 mgs a week..week 10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Steroidologist
    Good advice.

    A more humble, less aggressive approach could be more effective.

    I am simply too PASSIONATE.

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    You can still be just as passionate with a different approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronReload04
    I was under hte impression that having real test in the system, somthing the body uses easily because its more natural, is what solidifies gains. the principal that test is needed to build and maintain muscle. since, orals are not test, they are a bad choice to "solitdify gains"??? i could be wrong not really sure
    anywho, bump on this

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    Great Thread!


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    I am going to start sus250 and what you guys sound solid. So you guys would recommend winny at the beginning of my PCT but how much and how often do i take this ?
    I am doing sus250 , 500mg a week for 11 weeks w/ nolva 10mg a day.

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    NONONO!

    Not Winstrol DURING PCT--UP to PCT while your long-ester leaves your body.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic Power
    NONONO!

    Not Winstrol DURING PCT--UP to PCT while your long-ester leaves your body.


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    Could you help me out with some times here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpup101
    where would you throw in the var? if i was running a 12 week cycle of test e @ 500 mgs a week..week 10?
    Start it week 8-14 according to Ross's ideas, then start PCT when TestE has cleared your system. I am taking a similar approach on my next cycle, but I am completely switching compounds around weeks 8-10 to shorter esters to finish cycle.

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    great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science of Steroids
    great post!
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