How To Solidify Ur Gains

[SAGAD_01]

read and heard some suggestion wherein you take some purely or highly anabolic gear at the latter part of a cycle to “solidify the gains”?

what’s your take on this?

how does it work?

[james21]

no you dont solidify water

[symatech]

IMO the best way to solidify gains is to make your natural recovery as fast as possible.

[chest6]

solidify=keep..maintain past pct? Im guessing proper pct? Im not really seeing what you are saying here.

[SAGAD_01]

solidify=keep..maintain past pct? Im guessing proper pct? Im not really seeing what you are saying here.

sorry dud...

got mixed up...

[Steroid Man]

read and heard some suggestion wherein you take some purely or highly anabolic gear at the latter part of a cycle to “solidify the gains”?

what’s your take on this?

how does it work?

Actually, you are CORRECT.....

With long-acting injectables like Test E, Sustanon , EQ, and Deca , there will be a period of AT LEAST 2-4 weeks before PCT can even begin. During this 2-4 time frame, if you are not using a FAST acting injectable/ORAL while you WAIT for your long-ester to leave your system, you will be risking some SERIOUS LOSS OF GAINS. It is IMPERATIVE that during this time period you use a fast acting pure anabolic like Winstrol , Var, or Tbol, to "Harden up" and preserve gains until long-esters leave system...and THEN, once your esters have cleared your system completely, PCT can begin 24 hours after last Oral/injectable dose.

This is how you SOLIDIFY your gains....

!RE!

[Needle_Newb]

I learn something everyday.

[Steroid Man]

Great!

[Pinnacle]

Great!

Snuck back in again,huh Ross?

[eGGz]

Snuck back in again,huh Ross?

[Steroid Man]

They left the back door open, so I walked right in!

I will be leaving soon...just offering some help....

[Steroid Savior]

LOL--BUMP for "Steroid Man"

[Pinnacle]

LOL--BUMP for "Steroid Man"

[TCEL300]

proper pct...proper diet post cycle...good base before

[Darkness]

I'm going to do this too.
Winny/prop weeks 12-16
Test e weeks 1-14
Deca 1-12

[Tren Bull]

using a short acting ester while waiting for the long lasting ester to leave your system is a great idea bro. I think il try that with some wintrol

[Super Steroidologist]

using a short acting ester while waiting for the long lasting ester to leave your system is a great idea bro. I think il try that with some wintrol

Great! Glad I can help




[R]

[IronReload04]

bump for more opinions on this

[IronReload04]

I was under hte impression that having real test in the system, somthing the body uses easily because its more natural, is what solidifies gains. the principal that test is needed to build and maintain muscle. since, orals are not test, they are a bad choice to "solitdify gains"??? i could be wrong not really sure

[Super Steroidologist]

FYI*

Steroid Man, Steroid Savior, and Super Steroidologist are ALL ME.


[R]

[IronReload04]

FYI*

Steroid Man, Steroid Savior, and Super Steroidologist are ALL ME.


[R]

hahah...you actually used "steroid savior", you are a d**ck dude. way to win em over with that one lolololol.

I am actaully kind of laughing WITH YOU and AT YOU at the same TIME on that ONE. not that i AGREE with YOU.

[inspector_injector]

Very good post, Ross got to it before I did.

If you take long lasting esters always throw in an oral or a shorter acting ester like propionate or nandrolone phenylpropionate to help keep your test levels up while they are slowly dropping in those last three weeks from the enanthate or other ester.

By the way Ross, I don't know you but I agree with alot of the stuff you say except for the downgrading of test. It's perfectly fine in small dosages. However, I respect your opinion as well as everyone else's and different people have different bodies so you just have to find what works best for you.

[Super Steroidologist]

Very good post, Ross got to it before I did.

If you take long lasting esters always throw in an oral or a shorter acting ester like propionate or nandrolone phenylpropionate to help keep your test levels up while they are slowly dropping in those last three weeks from the enanthate or other ester.

By the way Ross, I don't know you but I agree with alot of the stuff you say except for the downgrading of test. It's perfectly fine in small dosages. However, I respect your opinion as well as everyone else's and different people have different bodies so you just have to find what works best for you.

Inspector, you know your stuff. You continue to impress me.

Thank you for being open-minded. You're a good bro.


[R]

[IronReload04]

I also do have respect for your opinion deep down. opinions are like assholes, everyone s got one. But you are terrible at presenting information. you cant present it in a im right and your wrong fashion. you just pisss people off that way. besides, bodybuilding is a very sensitive subject, if someone is told that what they are doing is not the absolute best, they freak. You are not humble about your ideas at all, which you lose alot of respect for. I remember another guy with radically different ideas, and, he IS the most humble online guy i have ever met. he really won alot of people oever

[Super Steroidologist]

I also do have respect for your opinion deep down. opinions are like assholes, everyone s got one. But you are terrible at presenting information. you cant present it in a im right and your wrong fashion. you just pisss people off that way. besides, bodybuilding is a very sensitive subject, if someone is told that what they are doing is not the absolute best, they freak. You are not humble about your ideas at all, which you lose alot of respect for. I remember another guy with radically different ideas, and, he IS the most humble online guy i have ever met. he really won alot of people oever

Good advice.

A more humble, less aggressive approach could be more effective.

I am simply too PASSIONATE.

[R]

[manc]

Snuck back in again,huh Ross?

nice one,,but is he talking bull?

[Bigpup101]

where would you throw in the var? if i was running a 12 week cycle of test e @ 500 mgs a week..week 10?

[IronReload04]

Good advice.

A more humble, less aggressive approach could be more effective.

I am simply too PASSIONATE.

[R]

You can still be just as passionate with a different approach.

[IronReload04]

I was under hte impression that having real test in the system, somthing the body uses easily because its more natural, is what solidifies gains. the principal that test is needed to build and maintain muscle. since, orals are not test, they are a bad choice to "solitdify gains"??? i could be wrong not really sure

anywho, bump on this

[Anabolic Power]

Great Thread!


[r]

[DSM4Life]

I am going to start sus250 and what you guys sound solid. So you guys would recommend winny at the beginning of my PCT but how much and how often do i take this ?
I am doing sus250 , 500mg a week for 11 weeks w/ nolva 10mg a day.

PCT

clomi
nolva

[Anabolic Power]

NONONO!

Not Winstrol DURING PCT--UP to PCT while your long-ester leaves your body.


[R]

[DSM4Life]

NONONO!

Not Winstrol DURING PCT--UP to PCT while your long-ester leaves your body.


[R]

Could you help me out with some times here ?

[ROSSOSTERONE]

Bump!

[Dr. Rossosterone]

bump

[AnatomicallyBlessed]

lol, this guys a trip

[IBdmfkr]

where would you throw in the var? if i was running a 12 week cycle of test e @ 500 mgs a week..week 10?

Start it week 8-14 according to Ross's ideas, then start PCT when TestE has cleared your system. I am taking a similar approach on my next cycle, but I am completely switching compounds around weeks 8-10 to shorter esters to finish cycle.

[Science of Steroids]

great post!

[Pinnacle]

great post!

lol....

[BajanBastard]

Oh man.